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Jan 23, 2017

Starling Tribune – Season 5.5 Edition – Legends Of Tomorrow Shogun (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) #136


The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network


Episode:            “Shogun” [Season 2  Episode 3]

Air Date:           Thursday, October 27, 2016

Director:      Kevin Tancharoen   

                   8x Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D | 1x Legends | 1x Arrow | 2x The Flash | 1x Supergirl


Writers:       Phil Klemmer

7x Legends | 3x Forever | 12x Chuck


Grainne Godfree   

6x Legends | 6x The Flash | 1x Arrow (teleplay)


Weekly Ratings


Legends Of Tomorrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01

02 Justice Society of America 20-Oct-2016 2.83

03 Shogun 27-Oct-2016 2.71



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06

02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66

03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65

04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22

05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47

06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35

07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61

08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53

09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion! 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17

11 Second Chances TBD

12 Bratva TBD

13 Spectre Of The Gun TBD

14 The Sin-Easter TBD


  • What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
    • Land in feudal Japan
    • Shogun is a hereditary commander-in-chief
  • Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
    • Shogun in Ray’s suit
      • Sara in sword fight w/2nd in command; Vixen helps
      • Shogun figures out how to work suit, have to flee
    • End fight
      • Sara and Vixen protect village
        • Sara takes out several men with just 2 swords
        • Vixen joins fight  - swords
        • Mick finally joins - in ninja outfit
        • Sara v. 2nd again - one pass - similiar to Seven
        • Samurai - but she uses a knife
      • Mick solo in forest - fights ninjas
      • Ray fights Shogun - sword v. Atom armor
        • Does some damage
        • Masako tries to fight
        • Finally Nate shows up
  • Time Travel: Share your thoughts
    • Ray can follow you if you fall out of the Waverider
    • Sara tells Vixen that because they are up against another time traveler, they can’t just go back in time and save Rex
    • Team decides to protect village from Shogun
      • Masako doesn’t marry Shogun - he’s noted for killing wives
      • Nate interferes; Shogun won’t marry her because he’s an “asshat”
      • Nate says they can’t leave because of Shogun and Ray agrees because Shogun has his suit
      • Nate shares words from Master Yoda
      • Isn’t preventing the marriage changing history?
        • Or did they save it because Katana (Tatsu Yamashiro) married Maseo Yamashiro?
  • Sara Lance / White Canary  
    • Coming into own as leader
    • Understands why Vixen attacked them
    • “I’m basically a ninja”
    • “League of Assassins, class of 09”
  • Ray Palmer / The Atom
    • Tries to teach Nate how to use powers
    • Loses the suit -- again
    • More about if he’s a hero w/o suit
    • Swallows magic babble pill to speak Japanese
    • Fights his way out of cell
    • Gets talk and armor from Ichiro; person is more important than the armor; armor dinged up, then did its job
    • Sacrifices suit to save day
  • Mick Rory / Heat Wave
    • Excited to fight ninjas
    • Defends himself to Vixen; he’s risking his life for two morons because they would do the same for him
    • Finding Rex’s killer not his problem - look from Vixen - let’s kill the bastard
  • Martin Stein / Firestorm
    • Has Gideon run a scan to double check Jax’s work
    • Encourages Jax to find room
    • Have to keep message a secret
  • Jefferson Jackson / Firestorm
    • Discovers secret room on ship filled with weapons and message from future Barry
    • Fixes Waverider - Rip made sure he knew every inch of ship
  • Nate Heywood / Steel
    • Nazi serum gives him powers
    • Decides to be Steel
    • Ray tries to teach him how to activate powers
    • Playing around crashes open Waverider, lands in Japan; speaks Japanese
    • White guy savior trope / falls for women getting married next day trope
    • Gets cocky; stands up to Shogun’s henchmen and gets stabbed
    • Finally performs when Masako is threatened
  • Amaya Jiwe / Vixen
    • Rex’s final words leads her to stow away on Waverider
    • Takes down Stein, Ray, Sara, Jax; accuses Mick of killing Rex
    • Fights Mick, taken out by a steeled-out Nate
    • Not a fan of Mick
    • From village - totem one of 5 to protect people
    • Totem harnesses spirit of animals
    • Recruited by JSA
    • Gives Mick proof ninjas exists - says Mick acts like a meathead, but has heart of a man who can be a hero
  • Rip Hunter
    • MIA
  • Gideon
    • How come she didn’t tell team Vixen snuck on?
    • “We’re screwed”
    • Maker of clothes
    • “Captain Hunter always enjoyed this song” - Time is on my side
  • Justice Society of America (JSA)
    • Rex Tyler/Hourman -
    • Obsidian -
    • Commander Steel -
    • Dr. Mid-Nite -
    • Stargirl -
  • Legion of Doom
    • Damien Darhk
    • Eobard Thawne / Reverse-Flash
    • Malcolm Merlyn




Season 02 Episode 03  “Shogun” (Date: 27 Oct 2016)

  1. CITIZEN STEEL - In the comics, Nate Heywood has powers that up to this point had never been depicted onscreen. This time around, he got a version of the Steel powers -- and, as in the comics, it comes from Nazis trying to take out the JSA who inadvertently provide him with abilities.
  2. TO BE MARRIED TOMORROW - The idea that the beautiful girl he happens upon is set to be married tomorrow to the Shogun -- loosely translated as "Royal Ugly Dude" -- feels like the kind of thing that pops up from time to time in time-travel fiction...but Bill & Ted is the most obvious one for us.
  3. LOST - "If I've learned one thing from Lost, it's that you don't go opening secret hatches." This is one of a couple of not-so-subtle pop culture references this week. Typically those don't make the "Easter eggs" lists, but we're acknowledging more of them this year since last season we had lots of fans chiming in to let us know that we "missed" them in the comments. Obviously, that's a reference to the long-running network drama LOST, one of the big mysteries of which revolved around a hatch into an underground chamber which, rather than providing the answers the characters hoped, only resulted in more questions.
  4. 2056 - There are a few superheroes -- notably The Flash and Green Lantern -- who have spent time in the not-too-distant future quite a bit in their careers, but the year 2056 doesn't come up specifically in the comics. Where it does come up is in Young Justice, the animated series in which Barry Allen's grandson Bart (Impulse/Kid Flash/Flash) played a key role. In that version of the story, Bart comes from a future where The Reach has conquered Earth and travels back in time to join Young Justice, which in part could potentially help to alter that dark future.
  5. MASTER YODA  - Of course, almost anyone would know that the reference to Ray Palmer's "sensei" Yoda, who shared the wisdom "do or do not; there is no try," is a nod to The Empire Strikes Back, in which the diminutive Jedi Master trained Luke Skywalker to harness the Force.
  6. THE SOULTAKER - It's established by the end of the episode that the young woman Nate wanted to help was pretty capable of defending herself under normal circumstances. She's from the clan Yamashiro, which if you don't recognize, you ought to. Not only did her descendant Tatsu Yamashiro and her husband Maseo recur throughout season 3 of Arrow, but Tatsu also appeared in this summer's Suicide Squad movie in her costumed identity as Katana. That sword? It's the Soultaker which, in the comics and in the Suicide Squad movie, absorbs the soul energy of the people killed with it.


  1. Marc Guggenheim reveals Ep 16 Title: Checkmate (Date: 19 Jan 2017)
    * The sixteenth episode of Arrow's fifth season has gone into production, and  EP Marc Guggenheim has given some insight into what's coming up with a peek at the episode's title.
    * The episode is called "Checkmate," which Guggenheim assures us that it does not refer to the spy agency formerly run by Maxwell Lord and Amanda Waller in the comics.
    Titled “Second Chances,” the Feb. 1 episode will see Oliver Queen team up with Talia in flashbacks in an effort to defeat Russian government strongman Kovar. TALIA AL GHUL TAKES OLIVER UNDER HER WING — In his quest to take down Kovar, Oliver (Stephen Amell) gets help from a surprising source – Talia al Ghul (guest star Lexa Doig). However, when she reveals what she wants from him in exchange, Oliver isn’t sure he can accept her help.
  3. Katrina Law On Whether ARROW Will Have A Nyssa And Talia Al Ghul Family Reunion (Date: 12 Jan 2017)
    Katrina Law's Nyssa al Ghul has yet to make an appearance in season 5 of Arrow but her sister, Talia, is set to appear soon, played by Lexa Doig.  Does that mean Nyssa will be returning as well? Cinemablend recently caught up with Law to discuss her role in the Training Day TV adaptation from CBS but also asked about a possible Arrow guest spot. "There’s always talk. Whether or not those talks will ever come to fruition is another matter, but I would love to have a reunion with Talia. I just think having the two sisters either fight side by side together or fight with each other would be epic either way. And then if we could somehow do some sort of flashback with Ra’s al Ghul coming in as well… Let’s petition to make that happen." But before you get your hopes up, Law cautioned that the shooting schedule for Training Day makes it difficult for her to get away to Vancouver, where Arrow films.
  4. A New Female Vigilante Is Coming To Arrow (Date: 16 Jan 2017)
    Part of the synopsis for episode 11 states: “Meanwhile, Curtis (Echo Kellum), tells the team about a female vigilante, Tina Boland (Juliana Harkavy) he uncovered on-line who has been wreaking havoc all over the country.” Tina Boland… a vigilante with no code name. And the description of those who have seen her on the set is that she wears all black. Put that with the executive producer Wendy Mericle saying that Green Arrow needs Black Canary and the spoiler-ish trailer telling us that the Laurel Lance we’ve seen is the Earth-2 version… this is making people on-line question if Tina Boland will become the new Black Canary. Earth-1 Laurel asked Ollie to not let the Black Canary end with her. Only the Earth-2 Laurel solves the problem of the Canary Cry being natural, but having her go through a full redemption arc compared to bringing in a new character all together might make Tina the better choice. We know she ends up joining with Team Arrow against Prometheus… but will she do it in a familiar black outfit?
  5. Arrow Will Have a Dolph Lundgren-Heavy Episode Set Mostly in the Russia Flashbacks This Season (Date: 17 Jan 2017)
    Action movie icon Dolph Lundgren will take center stage in an upcoming Arrow episode set almost entirely during the flashbacks later this season. Executive producer Marc Guggenheim told that he and the writers were aware of the excitement fans have for both Lundgren and the Bratva flashbacks, as well as the additional social media attention on all things Russian just now, all of which makes the episode seem like a good way to fill in some backstory. "Russia is very much in the zeitgeist these days, and coming into the back half of the year, we're doing a lot more with Russia," Guggenheim told "We're going to do a Russia-centric episode, a flashback-centric episode like we did in the first three years of the show. We'll be doing that later on in the season and that will have Dolph Lundgren's character, Konstantin Kovar, very much front and center."
  6. Arrow Season 5 Extended Trailer - 'This Is Getting Good' (Date: 18 Jan 2017)
    The CW has just debuted a new trailer ahead of next week's new episode, and it focuses on the questions surrounding Laurel's sudden reappearance. After Oliver sees her, he begins to wonder if what he's seeing is real. The remaining issues surrounding Prometheus are still weighing heavy on Oliver and the team, and it sends him further into a state of disbelief. For anyone in that world, it's a difficult time to understand what's going on around you. In addition to the teasing of these complicated plot lines, the new trailer features a ton of action. In fact, we may be seeing some of the best action in the show's five-year run.
    The trailer ends with Wild Dog saying what many fans are thinking following the intense footage, "This is getting good!"
  7. Arrow Episode 16 Title Revealed By Executive Producer (Date: 19 Jan 2017)
    The episode is called "Checkmate," which Guggenheim assures does not refer to the spy agency formerly run by Maxwell Lord and Amanda Waller in the comics. Beth Schwartz and Sarah Tarkoff wrote the episode, which will be the directorial debut of Ken Shane, a veteran second unit director and assistant director who has not only worked on Arrow for years but also worked on Alien 3 and Tim Burton's Batman.
  8. Title  (Date: xx month year)


    A photo was posted to Smith’s Instagram page and shows him sandwiched in-between two menacing looking aliens. Those aliens, you might remember, were teased in the “Supergirl Lives” extended trailer that the CW released the other day. As it turns out, that alien species has a name, and they are Maaldorians. It seems like this particular alien species was created specifically for this episode, so it’s unknown what the aspects and abilities of them will be. Whatever powers they may possess, it seems like Supergirl can still take them down with no problem, as she punches one with no hesitation in the trailer.
    When a television series frequently features time travel, alternate timelines and alternate universes, a character’s death doesn’t necessarily have the usual feeling of finality. Central City Police Detective Eddie Thawne after actor Rick Consett announced today that he’s coming back to The CW drama. How Eddie Thawne finds himself back in Star City remains to be seen. The show was recently renewed for a fourth season, and given the nature of the space-time continuum, the guest roles could keep coming for Cosnett.
    Fortunately, a new trailer for The CW’s “Supergirl” marks the return of the heroine for the second half of Season Two with the Kevin Smith-directed “Supergirl Lives,” which sees Kara Danvers, played by Melissa Benoist, and Mon-El, portrayed by Chris Wood, traveling to another world to break up an alien slaver’s ring.The trailer also teases bigger events down the road. Long-running “Superman” villainess Livewire, played by Brit Morgan, will make her return, and it looks as if greater emphasis will be placed on Jimmy Olsen’s (Mechad Brooks) costume identity Guardian.
  4. Chris Legends of Tomorrow star Wentworth Miller talks Captain Cold's return (Date: 11 Jan 2017)
    After sacrificing himself in season 1 to destroy the Time Council and save the Legends, Snart (Wentworth Miller) is slated to join Reverse-Flash (Matt Letscher), Damien Darhk (Neal McDonough), and Malcolm Merlyn (John Barrowman) in the Legion of Doom — and not just as a vision in Mick’s (Dominic Purcell) head. How? Well, it is a time travel show, and it sounds like the Legion may be scooping up Snart from an earlier time. “My sense is that if Snart comes back into the storyline via his present day incarnation, then he’s a straight up villain,” Miller tells EW — the actor was on hand at the Television Critics Association’s press tour Wednesday to promote the return of Prison Break. “He hasn’t gone on that first season Legends of Tomorrow journey yet, so when we meet him again — quote unquote alive in 2017 — I imagine that he’s going to be much like when we first met him the first season on The Flash, which I’m looking forward to, because it means I get to arc to a completely different place.”
    In this extended trailer for “Borrowing Problems from the Future,” the mid-season premiere, Barry and Cisco work backwards to prevent a future where Savitar kills Iris. HR Wells also toasts to Barry and Iris’ relationship, and the team assembles to outsmart Savitar once and for all.
    Batman is in for a nasty surprise. In a new clip from “Justice League Dark,” Deadman reaches out for the Dark Knight’s help, but he may just cross a boundary or two in order to do so.
    The clip opens as Bruce Wayne prepares for a shave. As soon as he touches his razor to his face, though, an unseen entity creeps up behind him, and he appears to be completely oblivious to its presence. When he becomes aware of it, it startles him enough that he cuts his cheek, and the pain causes him to look away for a brief moment. When he looks back up, he finds a name scrawled in the fogged up mirror: Constantine.
  7. Neil Kevin Smith Returning to Supergirl For Another Season 2 Episode (Date: 18 Jan 2017)
    Smith told that he will return for a second episode this season -- the as-yet-untitled seventeenth episode of the season. Smith said that midway through the episode “Supergirl Lives”, producers started feeling out his schedule. Ultimately, they offered him episode 17, which he described as "sweet," saying that it was nice that producers liked the job he was doing enough to bring him back within the season.


    DC Comics will raise the prices of 15 of its monthly “Rebirth” series starting in April, with cover prices increasing from $2.99 to $3.99. Along with the price increase, DC will offer download codes for a matching digital copy in the affected comic books. Here’s the full-list of series which will see a price increase and/or added digital codes starting in April: “All Star Batman,” “Batgirl,” “Batgirl and the Birds of Prey,” “Batman Beyond,” “Batwoman,” “Blue Beetle,” “Cyborg,” “The Hellblazer,” “New Super-Man,” “Red Hood and the Outlaws,” “Super Sons,” “Supergirl,” “Superwoman,” “Teen Titans,” “Titans” and “Trinity.”
  2. Green Arrow Issue #15 (Date: 18 Jan 2017)
    * “EMERALD OUTLAW” part four!
    * Green Arrow’s relationship with Seattle’s finest disintegrates when a new murder seems to implicate him beyond a shadow of a doubt. Now Ollie must find the real killer and prove his innocence while evading capture by the police and a dangerous new vigilante group!
    * Writer: Benjamin Percy | Pencils/Inks/Color: Juan E. Ferreyra | Letters: Nate Piekos Blambot
  3. DC's 'Top Secret' Free Comic Book Day Titles Revealed (Date: 18 Jan 2017)
    DC Comics have released detailed about its two "Top Secret" Free Comic Book Day titles to be offered on May 6 - a reprint of an issue of Greg Rucka and Nicola Scott's Wonder Woman, and a 32-page excerpt from the upcoming OGN DC Super Hero Girls: Summer Olympus by Shea Fontana and Yancet Labat.



Promo for Next Week’s Episode - “Who Are You” (Date: 25 Jan 2017)

Episode:   “Who Are You?” [Season 5 Episode 10]

Air Date:        Thursday, January 25, 2017

Summary:      Worried that Prometheus may be right about him being a killer, Oliver finds a ray of hope in the apparent return of Laurel. Felicity swears revenge against Prometheus for causing Malone's death.

Director:         Gregory Smith

Writers:          Ben Sokolowski and Brian Ford Sullivan



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