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The Starling Tribune: An Unofficial Arrow TV Show Fan Podcast

The Starling Tribune is a podcast dedicated to the CW's Arrow TV Show and the other DC Comics TV Shows on the CW channel as well as the DC Universe in general. Each week the reporters and their chief editor will get together to discuss the latest episode of the hit CW show Arrow. The Starling Tribune is a proud member of the GonnaGeek Podcast Network found at

Feb 6, 2017

Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – Who Are You (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) #138


The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network


Episode:            “Second Chances” [Season 5 Episode 11]

Air Date:           Wednesday, February 1, 2017

Director:      Mark Bunting


                   This is his first Directing job | 28x Arrow - First Assistant Director | 21x Smallville - Second Assistant Director


Writers:       Sarah Tarkoff


4x Arrow | 6x Vixen


Speed Weed


7x Arrow | 7x Haven



Weekly Ratings


Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating


01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17 1.68

11 Second Chances 1-Feb-17 1.91

12 Bratva 8-Feb-17

13 Spectre Of The Gun 15-Feb-17

14 The Sin-Eater TBD

15 Fighting Fire with Fire TBD

16 Checkmate TBD


Legends Of Tomorrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01

02 Justice Society of America 20-Oct-2016 2.83

03 Shogun 27-Oct-2016 2.71

04 Abominations 3-Nov-2016 1.75

05 Compromised 10-Nov-2016 1.77

06 Outlaw Country 17-Nov-2016 1.85

07 Invasion 1-Dec-2016 3.39

08 The Chicago Way 8-Dec-2016 2.00

09 Raiders Of The Lost Art 24-Jan-2016 1.74

10 The Legion Of Doom 31-Jan-2017 1.78



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06

02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66

03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65

04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22

05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47

06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35

07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61

08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53

09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17 2.65

10 We Can Be Heroes 30-Jan-17 2.35



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17 2.68

11 Dead Or Alive 31-Jan-17 3.06


Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters


  • What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
    • The team is full of people seeking second chances and redemption:
      • Ollie - can he be more than a vengeful monster?
      • Felicity - can she be a hacktivist with a purpose again?
      • Diggle - Free!
      • Rene - finding purpose
      • Rory - not seeking revenge
      • Dinah Drake - starting path of redemption
  • Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
    • Ollie taking on Russian bad guy
      • Takes out guards John Wick style
    • Rooftop fight
      • Lots of gunfire
      • Ollie shoots helicopter, goes for ride, takes guys out
      • Ollie shoots helicopter, blowing it up
      • Ollie then lectures Tina (Dinah) about not killing Sonus
  • Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
    • Talia!
      • Knows Ollie’s past
      • She was Yao Fei’s teacher; Ollie notes age, she says “family secret”
      • Gets Ollie to take care of Russian bad guy; Ollie beats guy to death
      • Helps create The Arrow - give the monster a name so he can be Oliver Queen while taking care of all the bad guys on The List
  • Ollie:  
    • Has to be convinced to find a new Black Canary
    • Picks the meta who is on a mission of revenge and needs help coming back from the edge because that’s what Team Arrow specializes in
    • Tries to convince Tina to be part of team; reveals identity (AGAIN) in hopes she’ll listen to him
  • Diggle
    • Tells Ollie to not look for Laurel’s replacement, but for someone to hand the Black Canary mantle to
    • Freed thanks to Felicity’s hacking
  • Thea
    • Not in episode
  • Felicity
    • So happy hacking Chase’s laptop and the NSA
    • Ghost Fox Goddess - Felicity’s dark, Goth days
    • Meets hacktivist she inspired; given Pandora, a program that can do a lot
    • Pandora - trap? Given to her by Helix
  • Quentin Lance
    • Still in rehab
  • Curtis
    • Tech guy in field
    • Hacks cameras, figures out dampener will work on Sonus
    • Finds Canary by looking up urban legends
  • Wild Dog
    • Loves triple patty burgers with cheese at Big Belly Burger
    • Loves using his guns
    • Developing relationship with Curtis
  • Artemis
    • Still being a traitor somewhere
  • Ragman
    • Brings Felicity Big Belly Burger and talks about fate and destiny
  • Dinah Drake / Black Canary
    • Undercover Central City cop known as Tina Bolland
    • Got cry by particle accelerator accident
    • Partner killed by Sonus - mission of revenge
    • Sonus rise to power in Hub City because Church died, leaving a  power vacuum
    • Doesn’t want to be a part of the team
    • Kills Sonus; realizes it’s not enough, so becomes part of team
  • D.A. Adrian Chase
    • Learns about NSA case against Walker
    • Gets Diggle freed
  • Susan Williams
    • Not in episode
  • Bratva
    • Kovar got girls from Russian bad guy
  • Prometheus
    • New developments:
      • Faked Lyla’s voice to trap Diggle and put him in prison
    • Known facts:
      • 30 years old?
      • Ollie’s past and that he is Arrow; knows about The List
      • How to fight like Ollie; studied with person Ollie did while in Russia
      • Has a tolerance to Diazepam (Valium); can shake off getting sedated
      • Where and how to get Ollie’s old arrows to make his own
      • Team Flash - how they keep metas at Star Labs; Black Siren
      • Sara, the Legends, the Waverider, time travel, and parallel worlds
    • Michelle’s List O’Suspects: (I’m keeping this active until the mask comes off)
      • Tommy Merlyn
      • Susan Williams
      • Robert Queen - too old?
      • Claybourne’s son
      • Adrian Chase (but more likely to become Vigilante)
      • Helena Bertinelli
      • Isabel Rochev
      • Mckenna Hall
      • Shado
      • Talia al Ghul
      • Roy - too young?
      • Some guy from the Bratva
  • Lingering Questions / Issues
    • Where does Ollie live?
    • How are they paying for everything?
      • We have an answer!




Season Episode  “Second Chances” (Date: 01 Feb 2017)

  1. HUB CITY - Hub City, a fictional city in the DC Universe, is best known as the home to The Question, a self-taught urban shaman. The last time we saw the city on Arrow was when Esrin Fortuna helped Oliver take on Damien Darhk...and of course, when Hub City started to show up in showrunner Marc Guggenheim's tweets this year, there was plenty of speculation that he was teasing The Question. Turns out, he was teasing the Black Canary!
  2. BIG BELLY BURGER - Big Belly Burger, a fictional fast-food restaurant in the DC Universe, is the fast food of choice for people who are in hiding, in jail, or otherwise cut off from the world on The Flash. Here, we saw Team Arrow hanging out there in Hub City while Felicity got it delivered to her in the Arrowcave during her side quest.
  3. FAMILY SECRET - When Talia refers to her agelessness as a "family secret," it's the kind of cutesy clue that Nyssa used to drop in her early appearances, where she didn't directly name-drop Ra's al Ghul or the Lazarus Pit, but made references that were pretty clear to people in the know. Back then, of course, we always wondered whether Ra's would ever make an appearance. Now, he's come and gone, and we know that this kind of vague dialogue is mostly to keep continuity tidy so that Oliver doesn't realize exactly who he's dealing with when Ra's and Nyssa come in later.
  4. THE FLASH & CAPTAIN SINGH - In what Marc Guggenheim tweeted was the quickest crossover Arrow has ever done with The Flash, we got to see Barry speed (in costume) into his boss's office to vouch for Green Arrow. What's nice to see is Captain Singh, Barry's boss, who hasn't been seen much this season. It felt a bit like last night, when the long-absent Miss Tessmacher from Supergirl had a quick cameo on The Flash.
  5. SONUS - Sean Sonus, alias Discord is a sonic villain who fights Green Arrow and Black Canary. He first appeared in Green Arrow and Black Canary #15, and was co-created by Arrow EP Andrew Kreisberg and artist Mike Norton.
  6. DINAH DRAKE - "Dinah Drake" is actually the name of the original/Earth-2 Black Canary, who existed in the comics before Dinah Lance did.



  1. New Arrow Episode Gets A Russian Title As It Begins Production (Date: 30 Jan 2017)
    Marc Guggenheim, the show's executive producer, shared a cover of the new episode's script, and let fans know that it was beginning production. Episode 17 will be titled 'Kapot', which is a Russian word meaning 'cowl' or 'hood'.
    Spectre of the Gun” — WILD DOG’S HISTORY IS REVEALED — A traumatic attack on City Hall triggers painful memories for Rene (Rick Gonzalez) about his family. Flashbacks reveal how Rene went from simple family man to a hero named Wild Dog. Meanwhile, Oliver (Stephen Amell) must deal with the perpetrator behind the attack and realizes the best way to do so is as Mayor Queen instead of the Green Arrow. Tensions run high in the Arrow bunker. Kristin Windell directed the episode written by Marc Guggenheim (#513). Original airdate 2/15/2017
  3. Matt's Inside Line: Scoop on Bones, Arrow, The 100, Once, Elementary, Suits, Little Liars, NCIS: LA and More (Date: 31 Jan 2017)
    Have we seen the last of Evelyn/Artemis on Arrow?
    Actually, when TVLine last spoke to Wendy Mericle, the Arrow scribes were in the midst of hashing out a return scenario for Little Miss Benedict Arnold. “We have a really cool, exciting twist for how she’s going to reappear,” the EP teased, noting: “The interesting thing about the choices Evelyn has made is that as much as she took the moral high ground when confronting Oliver, she has allied herself with someone who is even worse,” in Prometheus. “She’s gone from the frying pan into the fire.”
  4. Wayback Wednesday: Watch The First Ever Trailer For Arrow (Date: 01 Feb 2017)
    In honor of Wayback Wednesday - and a brand new episode of Arrow tonight - it's about time to take a look back at the first ever trailer for Arrow. This footage was seen in 2012, and it talked a lot about Oliver Queen's return to the real world, after he was thought to be dead. The trailer shows Oliver on the island, beard and all, as well as his assimilation back into society.
    “Tina Boland” is her undercover name; her real name is Dinah Drake. If that sounds familiar, that’s because Dinah Drake is the name of the original Black Canary. Dinah debuted in 1947’s “Flash Comics” #86 as Black Canary. Later, she married a man named Larry Lance and subsequently changed her name to Dinah Lance. Inspired by Dinah, her daughter Dinah Laurel Lance would go on to become a founding member of the Justice League. When the New 52 restarted DC Comics’ continuity, the Black Canary legacy was retconned, and Dinah Drake was restored as the one and only Black Canary. This New 52 version of Dinah Drake was formerly married to Kurt Lance, but the two divorced.
  6. Arrow: What is Helix? (Date: 01 Feb 2017)
    Helix was a supervillain group led by Dr. Benjamin Love, aka Mr. Bones. The members were six mutated children who had been experimented on and then kidnapped by Love. They grew up to be a rather bizarre cast of characters, including Kritter (a human/dog hybrid) and Baby Boom (a young child who can cause explosions with her mind). It's safe to assume that any future appearances of Helix will certainly be way more grounded in reality - with any mention of the original characters probably being used as online screennames. This is similar to the inclusion of the secret organization Shadowspire in Arrow, which was given a much more realistic makeover. When recently discussing the dynamic between Felicity and Diggle going forward, Arrow executive-producer Wendy Mericle mentioned that the events in 'Second Chances' will play into the rest of the season. "Part of what kicks [Felicity] off down this darker path is she's going to find evidence to exonerate him -- and [Diggle's] going to have to deal with the fallout of the fact that Felicity is now going down a questionable path in part because of him." With that in mind, there's a very good chance that tonight's episode will not be the last time we hear of Helix on Arrow.


    Unveiled by David Harewood, the teaser for “The Martian Chronicles” depicts the actor as Martian Manhunter alongside Melissa Benoist as the Girl of Steel, accompanied by the tagline, “Worlds Clash. Heroes Unite.” In the episode, a White Martian arrives in National City to capture M’gann and return her to Mars, where she’s to be punished as a traitor. Unwilling to allow that to happen, Hank Henshaw and Supergirl bring M’gann to the Department of Extra-Normal Operations for protection, only for circumstances to turn from bad to worse.
  2. Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow boss on crossovers ahead (Date: 26 Jan 2017)
    “We’re going to be seeing the Black Flash on Legends,” Guggenheim says, reminding fans that Thawne is a member of the Legion of Doom. “Lily Stein, who was introduced in Flash 308, makes an appearance next week. So there’s a fair amount of Flash-ness going on in Legends. I wish I could say that we were so smart to take advantage of the new timeslot and do that, but we weren’t that smart. We just had already sort of been doing that organically anyway when we found out about the new timeslot. I will say this: There’s a love scene in episode 11 and we were in the editing room on it — it’s a love scene, it gets a little steamy — and I was joking, ‘Let’s take that 9 p.m. timeslot out for a spin.'” The article has the audio of the interview with Guggenheim.
  3. Two Speedsters Are Better Than One On This Electrifying New Poster For THE FLASH (Date: 29 Jan 2017)
    While their partnership may have gotten off to a slightly rocky start in last week's midseason premiere, it sounds like Barry is finally ready to take Wally under his wing over the course of the next few episodes, which should result in a lot of high-speed fun. As for when we'll get to see the duo in action, it looks like episode twelve, titled "Untouchable," is a good bet as it'll feature a subplot with the Scarlet Speedster helping Kid Flash elevate his game to the next level. Check out the new "Lightning Strikes Twice" poster.
  4. The Flash: Robbie Amell teases his upcoming return (Date: 29 Jan 2017)
    Earlier this month, EW exclusively revealed that Robbie Amell is returning to The Flash for an upcoming episode. Details on his return are still scarce, but the actor gave EW a little tease of what to expect. “I was there last week,” he shared at Honda’s “Hockey Goes Hollywood” event in Los Angeles. “I can tell you that my scenes are with Grant [Gustin] and Danielle [Panabaker]. And I may or may not be alive.” That last part is key, considering the last we saw of Ronnie, he died as a result of destroying the singularity that opened up the path to Earth-2, where that planet’s Ronnie was a villain named Deathstorm. Being back on Flash is always a treat for Amell, who got to catch up with his TV wife and former superhero partner and have his first true Ronnie and Barry scene.
    Speaking to CBR, Letscher teased Reverse Flash’s plan, and he promised that Thawne’s motivation would be “a major reveal” in the next episode of “Legends of Tomorrow.” Letscher also discussed the Legion’s dynamic, the upcoming return of Leonard “Captain Cold” Snart, Thawne’s important “foreknowledge” of events and more. When asked about Captain Cold, he said, “He is going to be a full-fledged member of the Legion of Doom and be very valuable to them on multiple fronts. Eobard has done his homework in this regard, and he’s recruited somebody who’s fully on board with the Legion of Doom’s mission and he also understands the complications that Captain Cold’s relationship with the Legends… the psychological complications that inform Eobard and his plans.”
    Interview with CBR. When asked about Savitar, he said, “Savitar is the biggest threat that any of them have faced. Fortunately, Barry doesn’t have to do this alone. He’s always had Team Flash. Other people are getting powers. It’s going to take everyone working together to stop him. Wally is super-crucial to that.” Also, he won’t be singing in the musical episode.
  7. Rachel Bloom Wrote A Song For "The Flash" / "Supergirl" Musical Episode (Date: 31 Jan 2017)
    Crazy Ex-Girlfriend star and creator Rachel Bloom has co-written a song for The CW’s upcoming musical crossover between The Flash and Supergirl, BuzzFeed News can exclusively reveal. She wrote “Super Friend,” which will be performed by Grant Gustin and Melissa Benoist. The episode will also feature an original song written by Benj Pasek and Justin Paul (La La Land, Dear Evan Hansen) called “Runnin’ Home to You” that Gustin will perform.
  8. ‘Supergirl’: Teri Hatcher Joins Season 2 In Mystery Role (Date: 31 Jan 2017)
    Teri Hatcher, who starred as Lois Lane in ABC’s Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, is returning to the DC Comics universe, joining the Season 2 cast of the CW’s Supergirl in a recurring role. Details of her character aren’t known, but it’s described by the CW as “a mysterious new role that will become the new Big Bad of Season 2.” Executive Producer Andrew Kreisberg said of Hatcher’s casting, “No offense to any of the wonderful actresses who have also played the part, but Teri Hatcher is my all time favorite Lois Lane. To have her come back to the SuperWorld in a completely different part is an unbelievable gift to me, Greg, and the fans.”
  9. ‘Black Lightning’ Drama Eyes Move To the CW To Join Greg Berlanti Comic Lineup (Date: 02 Feb 2017)
    Deadline has learned that Black Lightning, the high-profile drama based on the DC character, which had a big production commitment at Fox, is on the move and likely to land at the CW. The project comes from Greg Berlanti, king of the CW’s DC universe. Fox brass ultimately decided that the superhero show was not a good fit. The CW is home of Berlanti Prods.’s four DC/WBTV superhero series —  Supergirl, Arrow, The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow, which Berlanti also co-created. That makes the network a suitable home for Black Lightning, which would give the CW’s DC universe its first major African American superhero. Black Lightning would be the only black superhero toplining his own broadcast series and the second currently on TV, joining Marvel’s Luke Cage on Netflix.


    “Sleepy Hollow” star Jessica Camacho, who plays Gypsy, recently spoke with CBR about her role in this week’s episode of Flash, including her character’s dynamic with Cisco, the “sacred” laws of Earth-19, Gypsy’s initial reaction to Team Flash and more.



Michelle calls it about Talia being the “Mommy” of The Arrow:










Promo for Next Week: Episode - “Bratva” (Date: 01 Feb 2017)

Episode:   “Bratva” [Season 5 Episode 12]

Air Date:        Wednesday, February 8, 2017

Summary:      A mission takes Oliver (Stephen Amell), Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) and team to Russia where they meet up with Oliver’s old friend, Anatoly (guest star David Nykl). Meanwhile, fresh out of rehab, Lance (Paul Blackthorne) returns to the mayor’s office ready to get back to work. However, when Susan (guest star Carly Pope) asks for an interview with Lance to discuss his addiction, he balks and it’s up to Rene (guest star Rick Gonzalez) to help keep things on track.

Director:         Ben Bray

Writers:          Oscar Balderrama and Emilio Ortega Aldrich



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