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The Starling Tribune: An Unofficial Arrow TV Show Fan Podcast

The Starling Tribune is a podcast dedicated to the CW's Arrow TV Show and the other DC Comics TV Shows on the CW channel as well as the DC Universe in general. Each week the reporters and their chief editor will get together to discuss the latest episode of the hit CW show Arrow. The Starling Tribune is a proud member of the GonnaGeek Podcast Network found at

Oct 8, 2018

Starling Tribune - Season 6.5 Edition – I, Ava (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) ST211


Episode:            “I, Ava” [Season 3 Episode 16]

Air Date:           Monday, March 26, 2018


Director:           Dean Choe


                        1x Legends / Stunt Coordinator 31x Legends


Writers: Ray Utarnachitt

                        1x Supergirl / 10x Legends / 1x Flash


Daphne Miles


              1x Legends Script Coordinator 2x/ 1x Vampire Diaries Writer Assistant 67x   





Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Fallout 12-Oct-17 1.52

02 Tribute 19-Oct-17 1.51

03 Next Of Kin 26-Oct-17 1.34

04 Reversal 2-Nov-17 1.33

05 Deathstroke Returns 9-Nov-17 1.29

06 Promises Kept 16-Nov-17 1.28

07 Thanksgiving 23-Nov-17 1.11

08 Crisis On Earth-X Part 2 27-Nov-17 2.54

09 Irreconcilable Differences 7-Dec-17 1.30

10 Divided 18-Jan-10 1.42

11 We Fall 25-Jan-18 1.39

12 All For Nothing 1-Feb-18 1.24

13 The Devil’s Greatest Trick 8-Feb-18 1.30

14 Collision Course 1-Mar-18 1.11

15 Doppelganger 8-Mar-18 1.28

16 The Thanatos Guild 29-Mar-18 1.12

17 Brothers In Arms 5-Apr-18 0.87

18 Fundamentals 12-Apr-18 1.06

19 The Dragon 19-Apr-18 0.96

20 Shifting Allegiances 26-Apr-18 0.87

21 Docket No. 11-19-41-73 3-May-18 1.10

22 The Ties that Bind 10-May-18 1.35

23 Life Sentence 17-May-18 1.35


Legends Of Tomorrow


Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Aruba-Con 10-Oct-17 1.71

02 Freakshow 17-Oct-17 1.58

03 Zuri 24-Oct-17 1.43

04 Phone Home 31-Oct-17 1.38

05 Return Of The Mack 7-Nov-17 1.52

06 Helen Hunt 14-Nov-17 1.53

07 Welcome To The Jungle 21-Nov-17 1.49

08 Crisis On Earth-X Part 4 28-Nov-17 2.80

09 Beebo The God Of War 5-Dec-17 1.61

10 Daddy Dahrkest 12-Feb-18 1.51

11 Here I Go Again 19-Feb-18 1.40

12 The Curse Of The Earth Totem 26-Feb-18 1.51

13 No Country For Old Dads 5-Mar-18 1.19

14 Amazing Grace 12-Mar-18 1.26

15 Necromancing The Stone 19-Mar-18 1.25

16 I Ava 26-Mar-18 1.28

17 Guest Starring John Noble 2-Apr-18 1.23

18 The Good, The Bad and the Cuddle 9-Apr-18 1.41




Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Girl Of Steel 9-Oct-17 1.87

02 Triggers 16-Oct-17 1.76

03 Far From The Tree 23-Oct-17 1.76

04 The Faithful 30-Oct-17 1.82

05 Damage 6-Nov-17 1.87

06 Midvale 13-Nov-17 1.89

07 Wake Up 20-Nov-17 1.92

08 Crisis On Earth-X Part 1 27-Nov-17 2.65

09 Reign 4-Dec-17 1.81

10 Legion Of Superheroes 15-Jan-18 2.17

11 Fort Rozz 22-Jan-18 2.07

12 For Good 29-Jan-18

13 Both Sides Now 5-Feb-18 2.12

14 Schott Through The Heart 16-Apr-18 1.91

15 In Search Of Lost Time 23-Apr-18 1.38

16 Of Two Minds 30-Apr-18 1.50

17 Trinity 7-May-18 1.60

18 Shelter From The Storm 14-May-18 1.53




Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Flash Reborn 10-Oct-17 2.84

02 Mixed Signals 17-Oct-17 2.54

03 Luck Be A Lady 24-Oct-17 2.62

04 Elongated Journey Into Night 31-Oct-17 1.99

05 Girls Night Out 7-Nov-17 2.38

06 When Harry Met Harry 14-Nov-17 2.46

07 Therefore I Am21-Nov-17 2.20

08 Crisis On Earth-X Part 3 28-Nov-17 2.82

09 Don’t Run 5-Dec-17 2.22

10 The Trail Of The Flash 16-Jan-18 2.51

11 The Elongated Knight Rises 23-Jan-18 2.12

12 Honey, I Shrunk Team Flash 30-Jan-18 2.60

13 True Colors 6-Feb-2018 2.28

14 Subject 9 27-Feb-18 2.12

15 Enter Flashtime 6-Mar-18 2.04

16 Run, Iris, Run 13-Mar-18 2.09

17 Null and Annoyed 10-Apr-18 1.82

18 Lose Yourself 17-Apr-18 1.88

19 Fury Rogue 24-Apr-18 1.90

20 Therefore She Is 1-May-18 1.70

21 Harry and the Hendersons 8-May-18 1.74

22 Think Fast 15-May-18 1.93




Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Resurrection 16-Jan-18 2.31

02 Black Lightning 23-Jan-18 1.94

03 Lawanda: The Book Of Burial 30-Jan-18 2.21

04 Black Jesus 6-Feb-18 1.88

05 And Then The Devil Brought The Plague: The Book Of Green Light 13-Feb-18 1.81

06 Three Sevens: The Book Of Thunder 27-Feb-18 1.64

07 Equinox: The Book of Fate 6-Mar-18 1.46

08 The Book Of Revelations 13-Mar-18 1.45

09 The Book Of Little Black Lies 20-Mar-18 1.55

10 Sins Of The Father 27-Mar-18 1.55

11 Black Jesus: The Book Of Crucifixion 3-Apr-18 1.50

12 The Resurrection and the Light: The Book of Pain 10-Apr-18 1.54

13 Shadow Of Death: The Book Of War 17-Apr-18 1.68


Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

  • What was the overall theme? What was the link to the episode’s name?
    • Find out Ava is a clone; our Ava has to figure out her identity
  • Time travel
    • Losing Amaya’s totem is hurting her granddaughter -
      • Nate and Wally to Detroit - 2018
      • Kuasa in hospital
    • Fresno - 2018
      • Ava’s parents’ house
      • Sara figures out parents are lying; they are actors
    • 2213 - Vancouver
      • No fly zone; Sara and co hijack mothership
      • Ava is the perfect woman; cloned to do many jobs
      • Our Ava arrives; she doesn’t know truth
      • Our Ava pretends to be a clone
    • Fight scenes and stunts
      • Sara beats up an Ava
      • Zari kicks Mick’s ass
        • Wind tornado
      • Nora
        • Stops Wally; takes his speed
        • Amaya activates totem, gets hurt, takes totem back
        • Kuasa helps free Nate; Nora rips water totem out of Kuasa
      • Our Ava and Sara
        • Fight all the Avas
        • Ray gets in a few punches
      • Sara Lance / White Canary
        • Needs a day off; puts Amaya in charge
        • Decides to figure out Ava’s secret
        • Tries to convince Ava that she is unique
        • Our teams need us to lead
        • Figures out Rip erased Ava’s file and made 2213 a no-fly zone
        • Rate her as Captain:
      • Ray Palmer / The Atom
        • Goes with Sara and Gary to find Ava
      • Mick Rory / Heat Wave
        • Makes food with fire totem
        • 4th lunch
        • Calls Zari a bitch
      • Nate Heywood / Steel
        • Sends Wally to keep an eye on Amaya
      • Amaya Jiwe / Vixen
        • Captain for a day
        • Snaps at Kuasa; Kuasa dies trying to make her proud
        • Sometimes wishes she never left her time
        • Takes jump ship to 1992 - against Gideon’s warning
      • Zari
        • Gets to train Mick
        • Fasting - Ramadan
      • Time Bureau
        • Gary
          • Shipping Ava and Sara
          • Ava’s missing
          • Gets flashed to forget about Ava’s clones
        • Ava’s back
          • Lies about seeing parents
        • Legion of Doom: The Sequel
          • Damien Darhk
            • Torture doesn’t bring him joy anymore
            • Burn the world and build it in his image, not Mallus
            • Pretends to hurt Nate
          • Nora Darhk
            • Has a lot of lines on her face
            • Gives Kuasa totem; power of Mallus strong in her
            • Gets water totem
          • Kuasa
            • There to protect Mari
            • Upset Nora has totem
            • Talked into helping Nate and Wally
            • Exchanges Nate for totem because Amaya loves him
            • Amaya - you are a threat to our family
            • Dies




  1. Arrow Season 7 Trailer Reveals There Aren’t Any Heroes in Prison (Date: 19 Sept 2018)
    1. After outing himself as the Green Arrow at the end of last season, Oliver Queen is behind bars, surrounded by enemies he has put away in the past and inmates who want to earn a name by beating him down. Someone has been running around in a Green Arrow costume, attacking people. The members of Team Arrow are powerless to stop him if they want to maintain their secret identities. And, of course, Ricardo Diaz is coming back to town with an eye on payback and making sure Oliver pays for defeating him last season.
  2. Arrow Season 7: Shadowhunters' Katherine McNamara Joins Cast (Date: 21 Sept 2018)
    1. TVLine has learned exclusively that the actress is joining Arrow in a pivotal recurring role. According to sources, McNamara will appear during the first half of Season 7 as Maya, a scrappy street fighter and thief from Star City. The initial — and unofficial — casting notice for the character likened the character to “Buffy the Superhero Slayer.”
  3. Arrowverse Finds Its Lois Lane in Grimm Star (Date: 14 Sept 2018)
    1. The CW has cast Grimm star Elizabeth Tulloch to play the Daily Planet ace reporter in this December’s three-show crossover between Supergirl, The Flash and Arrow. Previously, Tulloch played Juliette Silverton/Eve across all six seasons of Grimm. Her past credits also include Portlandia, The West Wing, The Artist, Parkland, Concussion and more.
  4. Arrowverse Casting Confirms Gotham City as Crossover Location (Date: 20 Sept 2018)
    1. Lost and Justified veteran Jeremy Davies will play Dr. John Deegan, a doctor at the notorious Arkham Asylum for the Criminally Insane, whose machinations draw Green Arrow, The Flash and Supergirl to Gotham. Although Gotham, the traditional stomping grounds of Batman, has been referenced on Arrow, DC’s Legends of Tomorrow and Supergirl, this will be the first time it’s actually shown on the Arrowverse dramas. Fans are still left to wonder whether this is the Gotham on Earth One, home of Green Arrow and The Flash, or Earth-38, inhabited by Supergirl. While the introduction in the crossover of Batwoman, played by Ruby Rose, led to speculation that Gotham might finally make its debut — the city is even referenced in the character description — this is the first confirmation.
  5. Arrowverse Crossover Adds Cassandra Jean Amell as Nora Fries (Date: 14 Sept 2018)
    1. The CW has just cast Cassandra Jean Amell (yes, the wife of Arrow star Stephen) in the role of Nora Fries. If that name sounds familiar to you, it's because Nora is the wife of Victor Fries, also known as the Batman villain Mister Freeze. No details were provided as to whether Amell's version of the character will be alive and well or in cryostasis at the time of her introduction. The customary character description was not provided, either, leaving the nature of her role (and presumably her husband's) a mystery.
  6. Arrowverse Crossover Casts The Monitor, Hints Elseworlds Will Be a Crisis (Date: 26 Sept 2018)
    1. The CW announced Designated Survivor star LaMonica Garrett has been cast as Mar Novu, “an extraterrestrial being of infinite power known as the Monitor,” in the Arrowverse’s upcoming Elseworlds crossover. In the comics, the Monitor was essential to Crisis on Infinite Earths. Created by Marv Wolfman and George Perez in 1982’s The New Teen Titans #21, the character was established to set up the events of Crisis. He is billions of years old, born as the living embodiment of the universe’s positive matter; as such, he is the natural enemy of the Anti-Monitor, a being of anti-matter. The highly-anticipated crossover will air over three nights, starting on Sunday, Dec. 9 through Tuesday, Dec. 11.
  7. Stephen Amell's First Arrowverse Crossover BTS Photo Teases New Costume (Date: 14 Sept 2018)
    1. The big Arrowverse crossover can't get here soon enough, and a new behind the scenes photo from Stephen Amell reveals he might be getting a new costume for it. The new photo shows Amell in the makeup chair, but he is sporting some bright green gel on his chest, neck, and face. It seems he is getting fitted for a mold, so now the question is what the new mask and suit will look like. He posted it with the caption "Officially started work on the crossover today."




  1. Legends of Tomorrow Introduces More Misfits in New Trailer (Date: 26 Sept 2018)
    1. The trailer starts off with John Constantine (Matt Ryan) telling White Canary (Caity Lotz) to get ready for a new fight because “the darkness… it’s rising,” which transitions into shots of what appear to be the Salem witch trials. The trailer then reveals that the team’s composition will be changing. There’s also fan-favorite Time Bureau Agent Gary Green (Adam Tsekhman) naked and claiming he’s an “intern Legend,” a fairy godmother and a unicorn shooting a rainbow mist from its horn.
  2. Dominic Purcell Defends 'Legends of Tomorrow' as Not Being the Joke of the Arrowverse (Date: 22 Sept 2018)
    1. Purcell, who plays Mick Rory/Heatwave on the series which will debut its fourth season next month, took to Instagram on Saturday, sharing why he's proud to be part of Legends as well as why he's no longer accepting the show being treated like a "joke".
    2. "First season of @cw_legendsoftomorrow sucked," Purcell wrote. "We had to change it drastically. The writers, the creative team changed its course with a genius master stroke. Let's have fun with it!!!! ....Now we have a show that embraces the absurdity of the farce and the brilliant nature of its theme."
    3. "No longer will I accept this [slight] utterance that Legends is the in house joke that we are the ugly step sister in the @dccomics @warnerbrostv #arrowverse tv sh*t," Purcell wrote. "I know for a fact we are not seen as that within the corporate structure. So shut the f*ck up. We good. We handling our sh*t, we good. We family. We delivering."




Link to Promo: (Date: 26 March 2018)


Episode: “Guest Starring John Noble” [Season 3 Episode 17]

Air Date: Monday, April 2, 2018

Summary: The Legends must fix two anachronisms at the same time to keep Mallus at bay and form an uneasy alliance with one of their enemies.

Director: Ralph Hemecker

Writers: Keto Shimizu & James Eagan

IMDB link:

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