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The Starling Tribune is a podcast dedicated to the CW's Arrow TV Show and the other DC Comics TV Shows on the CW channel as well as the DC Universe in general. Each week the reporters and their chief editor will get together to discuss the latest episode of the hit CW show Arrow. The Starling Tribune is a proud member of the GonnaGeek Podcast Network found at

Jan 9, 2017

Starling Tribune – Season 5.5 Edition – Legends Of Tomorrow Out Of Time (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)


The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network


“Out of Time” [Season 2  Episode 1]

Air Date:           Thursday, October 13, 2016

Director:      Dermott Downs

                   5x Legends | 3x Arrow | 6x The Flash | 3x Supergirl | 1x iZombie | 2x The Originals | 1x Gotham


Writers:       Marc Guggenheim (teleplay)

Executive Producer of Arrow and Legends | 12x Arrow | 7x Legends


Phil Klemmer (teleplay)

7x Legends | 3x Forever | 3x The Tomorrow People | 12x Chuck | 11x Veronica Mars


Greg Berlanti (story)

Mega Producer: Arrow, Flash, Legends, Supergirl, Riverdale


Chris Fedak (story)

5x Legends | 3x Forever | 17x Chuck

Weekly Ratings


Legends Of Tomorrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06

02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66

03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65

04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22

05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47

06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35

07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61

08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53

09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion! 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17

11 Second Chances TBD

12 Bratva TBD

13 Spectre Of The Gun TBD

14 The Sin-Easter TBD


Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

  • What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
    • They are outside of time - being in the time stream
    • They have only so much time to save New York city before changes to history are set
  • Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
    • French chateau fight. Ninjas plus musketeers plus Legends
    • Fight on the Dock
      • Sarah v. Damien Darhk
      • Team was totally not coordinated
  • Time Travel: Share your thoughts
    • 1637 - Have to save the future of France by making sure King and Queen conceive
      • Sara seduced by Queen
      • Mick, Stein, and Rip - Three Musketeers
      • End up using powers because others had laser guns
    • 1942 - New York - source of the Time Quake
      • Told by Rex not to go there
      • Go there to save NYC
      • Einstein, Nazis, great costumes, U-boat, Atomic bomb
      • Even the Legends are guilty of assuming only a man could have the knowledge to make the bomb
    • Time Scatter -
      • 70 mya - Ray in South Dakota w/Dino
      • 821 Tintangel, England - Stein and Jax wizards of a court
      • 1693 Salem - Sara accused of being a witch, happily corrupting women
  • Sara Lance / White Canary
    • They don’t pull any punches right off the bat with Sarah’s sexuality, or with her physicality “Shut your mouth, Jax, or I'll cut your eyes out and feed 'em to you.”
    • They make her desire for revenge on Damien Darhk a big part of the character right out of the gate as well.  Leads to the confrontation on the Waverider when Ray calls her out for trailing the Nazis.
  • Ray Palmer / The Atom
    • Still the boy scout
    • Follows Sara when she says she’s going to see Grandpa in FBI
    • Is he just a guy in a suit?
  • Mick Rory / Heat Wave
    • Found by Ollie and Heywood in statis
    • Injured during fight, why Rip put him in stasis; gets to pilot the Waverider to find team
    • Follows orders in France by not bringing gun, but breaks them by stealing
    • Einstein thinks he is the brains of the operation
  • Martin Stein / Firestorm
    • Giddy to meet Einstein, but disappointed (Never meet your heroes)
  • Jefferson Jackson / Firestorm
    • I really dig his knowledge of the ship
    • Foreshadows finding the hidden section of the ship later on.
  • Nate Heywood / Steel
    • Goes to Ollie because he realizes Legends are in trouble
    • Time detective
  • Amaya Jiwe / Vixen
  • Rip Hunter
    • Seems like he spends a lot of the episode frustrated
    • I get what he was doing with Jax (reminded me of the Karate Kid a bit with wax on wax off), but was it necessary
    • Couldn’t he have told the crew about the time scatter earlier?
    • Rehearsed an emergency drill or something?
  • Gideon
    • Without saying much except for “I’m here Captain” before the time scatter, Gideon seems really human.  Damn
  • Justice Society of America (JSA)
    • Obsedian
    • Commander Steel
    • Dr. Mid-Nite
    • Stargirl
  • Legion of Doom
    • Damien Darhk
      • Is the one who supplied the Nazis with uranium
      • Recognizes Sara’s fighting style
      • Germans want him to get another bomb, reveals his partner wants to move on
    • Eobard Thawne / Reverse-Flash
      • Revealed at end to be Darhk’s partner
    • Malcolm Merlyn



Season 02 Episode 01  “Out of Time” (Date: 13 Oct 2016)

  1. Out of Time - As has been the case a lot in the first couple of weeks of The CW's TV season, the episode's title -- "Out of Time" -- is a bit of a reference in and of itself. It's likely been the name of a number of time travel-related stories -- but most recently, it was the name of a story that ran through The Flash #30-35 (from the 2011 series) and featured, among other villains, The Reverse-Flash. The fact that the final moments of the episode incorporate the "surprise" appearance of Eobard Thawne, then, suggests this could have been a more-than-incidental use of the name.
  2. OLIVER QUEEN - Oliver Queen, seen wearing a suit and not in his Green Arrow costume for the purposes of this season finale, is played by Stephen Amell. The star of Arrow, Oliver is generally considered the genesis point for The CW's DC Universe (even though they obviously had Smallville and Birds of Prey long before Arrow came along). Amell's Green Arrow appeared in the series premieres of both The Flash and DC's Legends of Tomorrow, so this episode more or less continues a tradition.
  3. NATE HEYWOOD - Nick Zano joins the cast as Nate Heywood -- "Citizen Steel" -- who in the comics inherits the powers and costume of his grandfather. He's a troubled individual, suffering from both physical and emotional damage, in the comics -- but as Zano told at Comic Con International: San Diego, that's not the direction they're going with Heywood on TV.
  4. THE THREE MUSKETEERS - Cardinal Richelieu, depicted as one of the villains of Alexandre Dumas' The Three Musketeers, being included in this episode more or less cements the idea that they look like that on purpose -- and explains why certain characters who were strategically important in the fight -- like Jax, for instance -- had to stay out of sight.
  5. REX TYLER - Rex Tyler, the Golden Age Hourman and a veteran member of the Justice Society of America, is one of a number of DC heroes who would pass on his name and legacy numerous times over the decades to come in the comics. On TV, he made a single, brief appearance at the end of the season 1 finale of DC's Legends of Tomorrow, and will show up again -- with the rest of the Justice Society this time -- in next week's episode as well.
  6. DAMIEN DARHK - Damien Darhk was the season four big bad on Arrow. Like Ra's al Ghul, he's a very old man who has been kept relatively young by the Lazarus Pit because of his position of power and authority first within the League of Assassins and later in H.I.V.E. Originally created as a villain in The Titans, Darhk's control of H.I.V.E. made him an ideal choice when The CW decided to introduce a magical villain last year. He was nearly unbeatable until Oliver figured out how to manipulate Darhk's energy to his own ends, and now he's dead -- except that as somebody who's been not only alive, but rich and powerful for decades, he's surprisingly easy for a time-traveling troublemaker to find and recruit.
  7. ALBERT EINSTEIN - First of all, he's appeared in DC Comics before. In an oversized issue Superman vs. Wonder Woman, Nazis went after Einstein in 1942. Ultimately, Wonder Woman rescues him but ends up finding out about the Manhattan Project. After becoming a person of interest for a while and throwing down with Superman a bit, she ends up teaming up with the Last Son of Krypton to track down and defeat Baron Blitzkrieg. Secondly, the thing with his wife is actually based in historical controversy.  Mileva Marić was a Serbian physicist and has long been rumored to have coauthored Einstein's 1905 paper on relativity.
  8. INSULTING RAY - Calling him a "boy scout" feels like a nod to Brandon Routh's time as Superman, but the whole "what are you without that suit?" reeks of Marvel's The Avengers. That's a comic book movie reference twofer!
  9. REVERSE-FLASH - Eobard Thawne, the Reverse-Flash, may have something up his sleeve. At the end of The Flash's Season 3 premiere earlier this month, he said that while his future was as it should be, Barry's might not be. Barry then went home to discover a number of small anomalies that made his life and those of his friends worse. Now, we learn that "somebody" is outfitting the villains of history with future tech in order to push the world to a slightly worse place. Could Eobard Thawne have stepped right out of "Flashpoint" and into "Out of Time?" Either way, seeing him and Darhk together is enough to make seasoned Arrowverse fans quake in their boots even before they know the other members of Thawne's little Legion of Doom.


  1. New Arrow trailer reveals Laurel Lance twist (Date: 03 Jan 2017)
    Laurel is the Black Siren. Promo is from Arrow returns Wednesday, Jan. 25 at 8 p.m. ET on The CW.
  2. Diggle is Making a new friend!  (Date: 04 Jan 2017)
    Wendy Mericle told TVLine: “Diggle emerges from jail with a much bigger drive, and not the same fatalism that he had earlier in the season. He’s going to come up against Colonel Walker and grow closer to Adrian Chase.” Guess having a good lawyer on his side in the form of the DA, as well as Vigilante, will help!
  3. Talia to play a crucial role in the Prometheus arc!  (Date: 04 Jan 2017)
    * Speaking with TV Line, Mericle called the Prometheus mystery "a gift that keeps on giving for the rest of the season," adding that it will be Ra's al Ghul's daughter, Talia al Ghul, who plays a "crucial part" in helping Oliver solve the Prometheus mystery.
    * Stargate SG-1 actress Lexa Doig was recently cast to play the DC TV version of Talia on Arrow
  4. com’s Five predictions for the second half of S.05  (Date: 05 Jan 2017)
    Guys, do we agree or disagree:
    1. Laurel will drive a lot of the story in the second half of the season
    2. The Prometheus story will heat up
    3. Talia will appear in the present (she’s only been in flashbacks so far)
    4. The Arrow v. Vigilante fight will boil over into city hall (in politics)
    5. Reforming and coming back to the Original Team Arrow is the endgame (Oliver, Felicity, Diggle)




    After directing an episode of season two of “The Flash,” Kevin Smith is returning to the CW to direct an episode of “Supergirl”. There’s one big development that’s revealed in the clip: Mon-El finally got a job! He’s working as a bartender, which makes a lot of sense given his party-boy Daxamite background. True to form though, he’s not great at fetching club soda for Kara, preferring to serve her something brown and boozy.
  2. Tense Flash clip finds Barry and Wally at odds (Date: 27 Dec 2016)
    Wally, reveling in his newly rediscovered Kid Flash powers, appears to have gotten a little over eager during what was supposed to be a training session with Barry. Despite the fact that he saves the Flash’s life, Barry is none too happy with his protégé, and brings him to task for doing instead of observing and learning like he was supposed to.The clip also teases the introduction of another villain from the comics, with Wally bragging about how he put Plunder into Iron Heights. Plunder was previously shown in a season three episode in a news report, wearing an eye patch.   
  3. New Legends Of Tomorrow trailer Features Legion Of Doom (Date: xx month year)
    * The CW Television Network has just dropped a brand new trailer for the second-half of the second season of DC's Legends of Tomorrow.
    * It begins with Nate and Ray mentioning for the first time that Eobard Thawne (Matt Letscher), Damien Darhk (Neal McDonough) and Malcolm Merlyn (John Barrowman) are member of the Legion of Doom — though White Canary doesn't want to call them that.
    * We also learn, from a Sara-Jax exchange, that the Legion have Rip Hunter.
    * Lots of great action!
  4. Jeremy Jordan Talks Winn's Evolution on Supergirl (Date: 02 Jan 2017)
    Jeremy Jordan discusses with how Winn is developing from last season now that he is with the DEO instead of CatCo. "I think that Winn has become a foil for the audience in terms of how he's giving us the fanboy reaction play by play, and that's a really fun, exciting aspect of Winn to play," Jordan said. "That's 'old Winn.' That who Winn has always been at his core. At the same time, Winn is growing up and learning to guard himself and learning to protect his friends and he kind of becomes a little bit of the sage advice-giver this season, whether he's giving advice to Alex or cautioning James to take it easy. I think he's learned a lot from Cat and he's learned a lot from his experience in the past year or so and it's forced him to grow up a lot."
  5. Geoff Johns Will Return To Writing Comics In 2017, Teases Another New DCTV Show (Date: 01 Jan 2017)
    Geoff Johns' top 5 DC events that he's looking forward to in 2017 has revealed that DC's Chief Creative Officer will be returning to comics and also that there's a new DCTV show on the horizon. It seems pretty clear that Johns' return to writing a DC comic will involve the Watchmen characters that were behind the Rebirth event. But will that be a new series exclusively focusing on those characters or are we looking at another crossover event? There's still a lot of mystery surrounding Ozymandias and Doctor Manhattan's role in Rebirth so the safe bet would be another event series continuing on from where Rebirth left off. As far as a new DCTV series is concerned, will it be airing on The CW, Fox, Syfy or some other network?  And with the large number of DC characters already appearing on the various shows, will it be another spinoff series?
  6. Cisco Ramon may be getting a love interest  (Date: 05 Jan 2017)
    * Gypsy is a character who teamed with Vibe, Vixen, and a handful of other heroes on the '80s' notorious "Justice League Detroit," and she is expected to make her way to Central City soon…
    * Gypsy may be the one to help him really power through the challenges ahead while shedding some of the baggage of the last few months.
    * From a TVLine interview: “Cisco will find in the 'badass' Gypsy 'a very strong adversary' as well as 'someone he can’t stop thinking about.'”
  7. The back half of Supergirl S.02 will explore the Kara/Mon-El relationship  (Date: 05 Jan 2017)
    * A recent clip from Kevin Smith's latest Supergirl episode showed another 'meet-cute' moment between the two model-faced aliens,
    * According to executive producer Ali Adler, we'll see that romantic sub-plot continue over the latter half of season 2.
    * As Adler told TV Line when laying out the mid-season 2 arcs, "We'll explore more of that relationship... Kara still has to figure out how she feels about him."
    * The fact that we now know Mon-El is hiding a possibly nefarious secret will also have to be addressed, with Adler acknowledging, "A lot of secrets have been brewing this season," and that as season 2 gets into its latter half, "We'll get definitive answers."



  1. Green Arrow Issue #14 Dropped Today  (Date: 04 Jan 2017)
    * “EMERALD OUTLAW” part three!
    * Tension in Seattle reaches fever pitch when the media begins to question Green Arrow’s involvement in a series of murders committed by an archer with unmatched skills. If the police can’t catch this mysterious archer, can Green Arrow and Black Canary? Plus, the rogue police officer Ollie humiliated in a viral video returns to take the law into his own hands.
    * Writer Benjamin Percy | Art: Eleonora Carlini, Carlos Rodriguez, Gus Vasquez | Color: Hi-fi Letterer: Nate Piekos of Blambot(R)
  2. Green Arrow Trade Paperback #1  (Date: 05 Jan 2017)
    * Vol. 1: The Death and Life of Oliver Queen - BROKEN ARROW
    * writer BENJAMIN PERCY, illustrated by OTTO SCHMIDT and JUAN FERREYRA!
    * Collects GREEN ARROW: REBIRTH #1 and GREEN ARROW #1-5



Episode:   “The Justice Society of America” [Season 1 Episode 2]

Air Date:        Thursday, October 20, 2016

Summary:      The Legends discover a time aberration that threatens the Justice Society of America, who are on a mission to intercept and seize a mysterious package in Nazi-occupied Paris.

Director:         Michael Grossman

Writers:          Chris Fedak and Sarah Nicole Jones



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