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The Starling Tribune: An Unofficial Arrow TV Show Fan Podcast

The Starling Tribune is a podcast dedicated to the CW's Arrow TV Show and the other DC Comics TV Shows on the CW channel as well as the DC Universe in general. Each week the reporters and their chief editor will get together to discuss the latest episode of the hit CW show Arrow. The Starling Tribune is a proud member of the GonnaGeek Podcast Network found at

May 8, 2017

Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – Underneath (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) #151


The Official Arrow and Green Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network Covering DC Comics and CW Based DC Comic TV Shows


Episode:            “Underneath” [Season 5 Episode 20]

Air Date:           Wednesday, May 3, 2017

Director:           Wendey Stanzler


            7x Arrow | 3x Agents of Shield | 1x Flash | 1x Gotham | 3x Glee | 4x Parks and Recreation | 4x Vampire Diaries


Writers: Wendy Mericle


Showrunner on Arrow | 21x Arrow | 1x Star Wars Clone Wars | 1x Smallville


Beth Schwartz


21x Arrow | 2x Legends


Weekly Ratings



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17 1.68

11 Second Chances 1-Feb-17 1.91

12 Bratva 8-Feb-17 1.61

13 Spectre Of The Gun 15-Feb-17 1.66

14 The Sin-Eater 22-Feb-17 1.54

15 Fighting Fire with Fire 1-Mar-17 1.60

16 Checkmate 15-Mar-17 1.53

17 Kapiushon 22-Mar-17 1.38

18 Disbanded 29-Mar-17 1.55

19 Dangerous Liaisons 26-Apr-17 1.36

20 Underneath 3-May-17 1.36

21 Honor Thy Fathers 10-May-17

22 Missing 17-May-17

23 Lian Yu 24-May-17


Legends Of Tomorrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01

02 Justice Society of America 20-Oct-2016 2.83

03 Shogun 27-Oct-2016 2.71

04 Abominations 3-Nov-2016 1.75

05 Compromised 10-Nov-2016 1.77

06 Outlaw Country 17-Nov-2016 1.85

07 Invasion 1-Dec-2016 3.39

08 The Chicago Way 8-Dec-2016 2.00

09 Raiders Of The Lost Art 24-Jan-2016 1.74

10 The Legion Of Doom 31-Jan-2017 1.78

11 Turncoat 7-Feb-17 1.89

12 Camelot/3000 21-Feb-17 1.64

13 Land Of The Lost 7-Mar-17 1.54

14 Moonshoot 14-Mar-17 1.34

15 Fellowship of the Spear 21-Mar-17 1.72

16 Doomworld 28-Mar-17 1.59

17 Aruba 4-Apr-17 1.52



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06

02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66

03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65

04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22

05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47

06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35

07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61

08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53

09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17 2.65

10 We Can Be Heroes 30-Jan-17 2.35

11 The Martian Chronicles 6-Feb-17 2.4

12 Luthors 13-Feb-17 2.52

13 Mr. & Mrs. Mxyzptlk 20-Feb-17 2.24

14 Homecoming 27-Feb-17 2.17

15 Exodus 6-Mar-17 2.16

16 Star-Crossed 20-Mar-17 2.07

17 Distant Sun 27-Mar-17 2.21

18 Ace Reporter 24-Apr-17 1.80

19 Alex 1-May-17 1.75



Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17 2.68

11 Dead Or Alive 31-Jan-17 3.06

12 Untouchable 7-Feb-17 2.94

13 Attack on Gorilla City 21-Feb-17 2.78

14 Attack On Central City 28-Feb-17 2.87

15 The Wrath of Savitar 7-Mar-17 2.52

16 Into The Speed Force 14-Mar-17 2.39

17 Duet 21-Mar-17 2.71

18 Abra Kadabra 28-Mar-17 2.39

19 The Once And Future Flash 25-Apr-17 2.67

20 I Know Who You Are 2-May-17 2.69


  • What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
    • Felicity and Ollie trapped in the Arrowcave
    • Unspoken issues come forth between Lyla and John
  • Stunts: Share your thoughts
    • Ollie falls down elevator shaft
      • Gets stabbed
    • Duct tape doesn’t fix everything -- does methane work that way? Wouldn’t they be dead sooner?
    • Explosions and fire from methane
    • Ollie carries Felicity on his back while bleeding to death
    • Diggle falls down a ladder
    • Diggle holds Ollie and Felicity; Ollie pulls Felicity up
  • Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
    • 11 months ago
      • Felicity wants Ollie to form team
      • Curtis senses lingering feelings, organizes dinner for them
        Salmon ladder flirting scene
      • Post breakup “BUNKER sex”
      • Felicity - you don’t trust me Ollie, so thanks for last night, but we are still no more
  • Ollie:  
    • Doesn’t listen to Felicity’s CORRECT advice until he gets hurt
    • Gets injured, but somehow doesn’t bleed out and die
    • Even when trying not to, still can’t use another excuse except “I don’t want you to become me.”
    • Needs a shot of adrenaline to carry Felicity and himself up the elevator shaft, jump over to Diggle, and pull her up
    • Tells Felicity about liking killing.
  • Diggle
    • He and Lyla discuss how they both are involved in shady activities; is what they do so different?
    • Lyla tells him more about Argus
    • They end up making up because he gets advice from Dinah
  • Thea
    • Vacay
  • Felicity
    • Still has trust issue with Ollie
    • Why didn’t back my play and whole thing with Helix?
    • Chip stopped working
    • Tried to science their way out
    • Won’t let Oliver brush off a difficult conversation no matter how much he tries
    • Comes to realize that after going through a fraction of what Ollie has made her want to cross the line to get vengeance for Billy, so she comes to understand more about Oliver and why he kept William a secret
  • Quentin Lance
    • Thinks Ollie has abandoned being Mayor again
    • Worried all of Chase’s convictions will be overturned
  • Curtis / Mr. Terrific
    • STEPHEN: More like Matchmaker Terrific
    • Figures out something wrong with bunker
    • Gets over Argus stealing his T-spheres because they made them better
    • In the flashback, he’s still with Paul *sob*
    • Works with team to save Ollie and Felicity
  • Rene / Wild Dog
    • Works with team to save Ollie and Felicity
  • Dinah Drake / Black Canary
    • Figures out hydrochloric acid would work
    • Talks some sense into Diggle
    • Finally has elements of trying to work in to the fold. She’s stand off-ish when Diggle resists at first. FINALLY! FINALLY SOME ACTUAL CHARACTER DEPTH ON COMING IN TO THE FOLD.
    • Works with team to save Ollie and Felicity
  • Artemis
    • Traitor
  • Rory / Ragman
    • Walkabout
  • D.A. Adrian Chase / Prometheus
    • Did he really set off the EMP?
    • Got Helix to do it?
    • End of episode - Finds William
    • What we know:
      • Claybourne’s son; knows about The List; has moves Ollie learned from Talia; learned about Flash & co and multiple universes




  1. Arrow: Stephen Amell Teases Prometheus' Savage End Game (Date: 30 April 2017)
    Arrow star Stephen Amell spoke to reader Michael Leslie at Planet Comicon Kansas City where he revealed that Chase’s violent tendencies are only going to get worse for Team Arrow as it barrels toward its fifth season finale, while praising the performance of actor Josh Segarra. Amell talked about how Prometheus has been a great villain for Green Arrow and his allies, calling Segarra “almost scary good.” When Leslie noted just how savage Chase has been revealed to be, Amell only offered this tease for the remaining episodes:“Just you wait.”
  2. Stephen: Spoiler Room: Scoop on Supernatural, Handmaid's Tale, OUAT, and more (Date: 28 April 2017)
    Anything on the Arrow finale? — We know Oliver’s going to be heading back to the island — after all, that’s where Slade has been imprisoned, but he definitely won’t be alone. “One of the things that will surprise us is why he goes and the amount of people who will be there,” Stephen Amell says. “This whole year has been built around Oliver returning on a team, but what happens when Oliver’s team isn’t there for him and he still needs a team?”
  3. Dark Phoenix Could Be Searching for a Younger Version of an X-Men Mainstay (Morning Spoilers) (Date: 01 May 2017)
    Arrow - John Barrowman has revealed he will not be a part of the Arrowverse next season. Told to audience at Planet Comic Con.


  1. The Flash: Get the scoop on Killer Frost showdown (Date: 01 May 2017)
    With Caitlin (Danielle Panabaker) on death’s door, Team Flash was recently forced to unleash her villainous alter ego, Killer Frost, thus turning their former ally into an icy foe, hell-bent on making them all pay. “Obviously her meta powers have severely messed with her mind, so it’s not like Barry Allen, who is still Barry Allen even though he got super speed,” executive producer Andrew Kreisberg explains. “Her brain chemistry has been severely altered.” However, there may also be no quick fix to wait ails Caitlin, meaning this storyline could draw into next season. “For me personally as an actor, it’s been fun to play Killer Frost and I hope that it lasts a little while and we don’t necessarily tie it up in a bow right away,” Panabaker says. “I’m enjoying getting to play her.” “Obviously Danielle Panabaker is not going anywhere,” Kreisberg adds. “How and if she becomes Caitlin Snow again, or she remains Killer Frost or a version of Killer Frost, into season 4, you’re going to have to tune in.”
    “Supergirl” EP Andrew Kreisberg recently spoke with CBR about Rhea’s endgame, Supergirl’s moral dilemma, the return of Tyler Hoechlin’s Superman to the show, and the arrival of Mark Gibbons as General Zod. “We have amazing guest stars in the finale. We are bringing back people we’ve had all season. We have Calista Flockhart coming back. In the last two episodes, we have Lynda Carter returning as the President, Sharon Leal is coming back as M’gann. Obviously, there’s Tyler as Superman. These are some of the biggest episodes we’ve ever done. We’re so proud of Teri Hatcher, and so amazed she’s on our show and killing it as Rhea. There is a feature film quality finale, with huge guest stars, stunts and visual effects. We will get a glimpse of the Season 3 villain in the finale, which we’re also excited about.”
  3. The Flash: Savitar's identity revealed! (Date: 02 May 2017)
    Executive producer Andrew Kreisberg tells EW, “What’s really cool for anyone who thought that there wasn’t a plan, or we didn’t know, or we were making this up as we go, this was always where we were heading,” Kreisberg says. “The idea that the darkest villain we could come up with was actually a very damaged version of our hero was interesting and fresh to us. We’re not only competing with all the stuff that we’ve done on Flash, but we’re always competing with everything we’ve done on all the other shows. So to have our lead actor be both the hero and the villain isn’t something we’ve done before, so that was exciting for us as storytellers.”


  1. Harkavy Sings About Her Arrow Future, As Black Canary or Otherwise (Date: 03 May 2017)
    As “Arrow” returns to The CW for the final six episodes of its fifth season, the actress joined CBR for a look inside her tour of duty on Team Arrow. We discusses her dedication to learning everything she can about one of comics’ original superheroines, and her budding interest in graphic storytelling – not to mention her experiences on a pair of other comic book-based TV series
  2. Echo Kellum Previews Team Arrow’s Last Stand Against Prometheus (Date: 03 May 2017)
    Echo Kellum, who brings Curtis to life every week on “Arrow,” recently spoke with CBR about his character’s evolution into Mr. Terrific, wielding the hero’s iconic T-Spheres, Evelyn’s betrayal and shaking up the team’s status quo.




Promo for Next Week’s: Episode - “Honor Thy Fathers” (Date: 04 May 2017)

Episode:   “Honor Thy Fathers” [Season 5 Episode 21]

Air Date:           Wednesday, May 10, 2017

Summary:         Oliver faces the forced release of criminals prosecuted by Adrian Chase, while a crate is delivered to Oliver's office containing a corpse in concrete.

Director:           Laura Belsey

Writers: Marc Guggenheim and Sarah Tarkoff




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