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Oct 17, 2016

Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – The Recruits (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)


The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network


Episode:               “The Recruits” [Season 5  Episode 2]

Air Date:              Wednesday, October 12, 2016

Director:              James Bamford


                The stunt coordinator turned director | 5x Arrow - last season’s “Brotherhood” and “Code of Silence,” last week’s “Legacy” and is slated to direct episode 5.8


Writers:                Speed Weed


5x Arrow | 7x Haven | 23x Arrow - co-executive producer


Beth Schwartz


18x Arrow | 2x Legends of Tomorrow | 23x Arrow - co-executive producer



Weekly Ratings


Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 5-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 5-Oct-16

04 Penance 5-Oct-16

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16

06 So It Begins TBA

07 Vigilante TBA


09 What We Leave Behind TBA


  • Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters
  • What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
    • Ollie building team; Ollie becomes Bratva
  • Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
    • RIng the bell fights are brutal, great choice for Bam Bam to direct
    • Church v. Ollie - round 2
  • Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
    • Brutal, just brutal
  • Ollie:
    • Protecting himself from being left again
    • Actually does some work as Mayor
    • “I have failed these recruits as a leader”
    • Finally listens to Felicity for the right reasons
    • Decides to form team
    • Honor legacy of father
    • Been 10 years for him - 5 for us
  • Diggle
    • Getting setup bad.
    • Who will save him
    • Finds peace being told what to do - chain of command
    • Genesis day effect - illegal nuke tech tied to Genesis Day
    • Moment in this week’s episode of Flash revealed impact of Flashpoint on Diggle
  • Thea
    • Super competent as chief of staff
    • Still not missing the hero life at all
    • Gets through to Lance - offers him Deputy Mayor job (Michelle called it!)
  • Felicity
    • Gives Ollie the lectures he needs
    • Lies to new BF - like Ollie had to do to her in season 1
    • Starts to feel guilty when she hears Ragman’s story
  • Lance
    • Still drinking - late for security work at clinic event
    • Offered job by Thea
    • Interesting moments with Thea
  • Curtis
    • Tries the salmon ladder - not successful
    • Gives Ollie the “we need to trust and respect you” speech
  • Wild Dog
    • Doesn’t like code name
    • Says Arrow won’t be the boss of him
    • Disobeys order to not engage - gets piece of rag; “evidence”
  • Ragman
    • After Amertek because their tech built nuke - Genesis Day
    • Chooses to help Ollie over vengeance
    • Decides to join Ollie after “Honor fathers” speech
  • Tobias Church
    • Has $100 million to buy weapons from Amertek
    • Stops man from helping Amertek boss - to save him money
  • Prometheus
    • Gets the jump on Tobias Church - the Arrow is mine!
    • Reveals name




Season Episode  “The Recruits” (Date: 12  Oct 2016)

  1. Return of the salmon ladder - Curtis is shown attempting the salmon ladder, and the salmon ladder is an actual thing and not created for the show
  2. Amertek -Even before they were the manufacturers of the Genesis Day missiles, Amertek were pretty sketchy characters. Amertek Industries is a weapons manufacturer, tech conglomerate and defense contractor arguably best known for their biggest gun (literally and figuratively), the "Toastmaster" BG-80. Designed by John Henry Irons, their brutality turned him off of weapons-making and he left Amertek to go into hiding, taking on the name Henry Johnson. The guns would later make their way into the hands of street gangs in Metropolis and Washington, DC. Seeing his weapons on the streets, coupled with the then-recent death of his idol Superman, led Irons to take on the armored superhero identity of Steel.
  3. Ragman - In the show, Ragman’s family was killed when the missile hit Havenrock. In the comics, Ragman is a Gotham-based vigilante who wears the mystical Suit of Souls, from which his powers come. Created by Robert Kanigher and Joe Kubert, Ragman has a bit of a Ghost Rider thing going on, with the costume allowing him to take the souls of the guilty -- except that in the case of Ragman, he can summon their abilities later in battle. By being used in this way, the evil can actually earn redemption and passage to Heaven.




  1. Supergirl and Arrow Boss Says Ollie and Kara won’t get along (Date: 11 Oct 2016)
    As per Andrew Kreisberg regarding the crossover “
    Part of Oliver’s [Stephen Amell] journey in those episodes is he’s kind of hit his breaking point for things he’s willing to accept. He’s had Mirakuru soldiers, the Lazarus Pit, magic, and Damien Darhk, but flying aliens who can incinerate you with their eyes is one beyond the pale for him. He’s keeping his distance, which is a very Oliver thing to do. Even Kara comments, ‘Does he not like me?’ Barry’s like, ‘No, that’s kind of how he treats everybody.’


  1. Guillermo del Toro has an open invite to direct Arrow (Date: 8 Oct 2016)
    del Toro teamed up with Arrow executive producer Marc Guggenheim for Trollhunters, a new animated series.  Guggenheim was asked about NYCC if del Toro might appear to do an episode of Arrow.   
    "I'd be lying if I said I never broached the topic with him," Guggenheim says. "He's so busy and he is filming right now actually up in Toronto."

"He's got a standing invitation," Guggenheim concludes.

  1. Arrow’s Wild Dog to feature in DC/CW’s Invasion crossover  (Date:11 Oct 2016)
    Rick Gonzales, who plays Wild Dog, tweeted out a picture of his mask with the Flash’s mask. It was later confirmed that Wild Dog will be part of the crossover event.


  1. Flash Hits a Series Low Rating (Date: 12 Oct 2016)
    The latest episode of The Flash, titled Paradox, hit a series low 1.0/4 in the rating share and drew in 2.75 million viewers overall. The season started off with a dip in ratings, as the premiere episode averaged a 1.2 in the demographic and drew in 3.1 million viewers, which was down from 3.6 million in its season 2 premier
  2. Supergirl premier rockets CW ratings to 8-year high  (Date: 11  Oct 2016)
    Supergirl premiere got 3 million viewers and a 1.1 18-49 demo rating. This episode is the most-watched Monday night show on the CW since a 2008 episode of “Gossip Girl.” On CBS, the season 1 finale drew in 6.1 million viewers and a 1.3 rating in the 18-49 demo


  1. Arrow Boss Teases Most Ambitious Crossover yet (Date: 13 Oct 2016)
    The arrival of the Dominators will force the Arrowverse’s superheroes to team up for what Guggenheim calls their “most ambitious” crossover yet.

“This year,” Guggenheim continues, “we’re doing by far the most ambitious crossover we’ve ever done. It’s basically a huge three-part story that also brings in Supergirl, so it’s crossing over all four shows. It’s telling one big epic movie of a story. It’s not setting up any other spin-offs, it’s just big, bombastic, huge action. There’s also some really poignant character moments. There’s a lot of plot lines, particularly I would say in Flash and Legends, that come to fruition in the crossover. It’s by far the most ambitious thing we’ve ever attempted. I want to say it’s by far one of the most ambitious things anyone in network television has ever attempted. It’s completely insane.”


  1. Supergirl will not Move into the Flarrow ‘verse (Date: 8 Oct 2016)
    Fans had speculated and hoped that a move to the CW might unify Supergirl with the Flarrow universe during the upcoming crossover.  Executive Producer Andrew Kreisberg explain how the jump will work saying "Not for her entire world, but Kara will be traveling from her dimension to our dimension, “our” being the world that The Flash, Arrow, and Legends lives in."


  1. James Olson Becomes Guardian on Supergirl (Date: 12 Oct 2016)
    James Olsen (Mehcad Brooks) is about to make the move from faithful sidekick to kickass masked vigilante later this season on The CW’sSupergirl.

Via Andrew Kresberg: “James has a pretty big turn coming up. These next few episodes are going to make him realize that being a photographer… is not enough for him, so he’s going to go on a pretty exciting career trajectory that we’re really pumped by. James is going to decide that he can no longer sit back and be a sidekick, so he’s going to decide to become a vigilante and he’s going to become Guardian — complete with the shield — which is going to cause a massive problem in his relationship with Kara [Melissa Benoist], because he has decided not to tell her. Now there’s this new masked vigilante, and she has her own feelings about vigilantes, and it becomes a push and pull about who gets to decide who gets to be a hero? He’s recruited Winn [Jeremy Jordan] to help him, Winn is his man in the van, so the two of them are doing this together. Winn and James together is comedy gold. Watching Winn, as he takes his job at the DEO, but then he’s lying to everybody about how he’s spending his nights, because he’s going out with James, and how he walks in exhausted or walks in with a black eye and says he walked into a door, is the fun excitement of building these first 10 episodes.”


  1. Did Flashpoint create a future Legends of Tomorrow superhero? (Date: 13 Oct 2016)
    While Barry visited Felciity in this week’s episode of The Flash, he learned that Diggle has a son now. Could this be the John Diggle, Jr. we met in the Legends episode called “Star City 2046”?


  1. From NYCC: Matt Ryan is Open To Returning as Constantine on Arrow (Date: 8  Oct 2016)
    DC was doing a panel for the upcoming Justice League Dark cartoon.  During the panel Matt Ryan was asked if he’s be open to returning to Arrow.  Ryan said that this is the first time he's been free in awhile, but in this crazy ride of acting, he's learned to not rule anything out." He said that in terms of an Arrow return, he's open to it because: "I love the character."




Promo for Next Week: Episode - “A Matter of Trust” (Date: 12  Oct 2016)

Episode:   “A Matter of Trust” [Season 5  Episode 3]

Air Date:       Wednesday, October 19, 2016

Summary:    WRESTLING STAR CODY RHODES BRINGS THE SMACK DOWN TO STAR CITY —Now that Oliver (Stephen Amell) has his new team, they are ready to hit the streets but Oliver doesn’t feel they are ready. Headstrong Wild Dog (guest star Rick Gonzalez) defies the Green Arrow’s orders and sets out on his own after a new drug dealer, Derek Sampson (guest star Cody Rhodes), who is terrorizing Star City. Sampson proves more powerful than Wild Dog and it is up to the Green Arrow to go head to head with Sampson to save his teammate. Gregory Smith directed the episode written by Ben Sokolowski & Emilio Ortega Aldrich

Director:       Gregory Smith

Writers:         Ben Sokolowski and Emilio Ortega Aldrich



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