Oct 31, 2016
Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – Penance (A CW Network
Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)
The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network
Episode:
“Penance” [Season 5 Episode 4 ]
Air D
ate: Wednesday, October 26,
2016
Director: Dermott Downs
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0236173/?ref_=tt_ov_dr
3x Arrow | 5x Legends of Tomorrow | 5x The Flash | 3x Supergirl |
1x iZombie | 2x The Originals | 1x Gotham
Writers: Brian Ford Sullivan
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6893205/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4
9x Arrow | 7x Vixen
Oscar Balderrama
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2421455/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5
8x Arrow | 1x Drop Dead Diva | 2x Eli Stone
Promo:
http://comicbook.com/2016/10/19/arrow-season-5-episode-4-penance-sneak-preview/
Weekly Ratings
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date /
Rating
01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89
02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94
03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79
04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87
05 Human Target 2-Nov-16
06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16
07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16
08 Invasion 30-Nov-16
09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16
10 Who Are You TBD
Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters
- What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link
to the ep. name
- Dig wants to pay his Penance
- Felicity paying penance for Havenrock
- Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
- Prison escape is straight out of The Dark Knight (add it to the
bat checklist)
- Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
- Ollie is Bratva now
- Got info on Kovar; killed guy
- Ollie:
- Determined to make sure Diggle doesn’t abandon family
- Team still needs a lot of work
- What do we think of his plan with Lyla to free Diggle? (a can
of stuff that eats through anything but the can it’s in)
- Diggle
- The bromance is back
- Ollie changes his mind real quick on escaping
- Thea
- Felicity
- Doesn’t like plan to save Diggle
- Takes charge of team when Ollie leaves
- Has talk with Rory
- Allows team to take on Church after Rory comes back
- Tells team to leave Wild Dog behind (why couldn’t Ragman, who
can block bullets and blasts, not go in and save Wild Dog?)
- Says that her legacy is Havenrock; has to live with that
mistake for the rest of her life (not really a mistake b/c Darhk’s
fault and stuff)
- Quentin Lance
- Scenes w/Thea - fatherly bonding
- Drives getaway van
- Been sober for a week
- Curtis
- Has good instincts - why would Church steal something you can
buy? - cut off by Felicity
- Knife in back
- Is Mr. Terrific (but they need to get a better stunt double for
him)
- Wild Dog
- He is the team punching bag, keeps taking beatings each
week
- Ruins mission at top of episode; missed shots
- Artemis
- Gets her name and her bow
- Writers need to develop her character more
- Ragman
- Comes back to the team
- Felicity okays team into field after he comes back
- Has a legacy to live up to - his father and grandfather were
both Rory and had the rags
- Makes Felicity promise that they will learn how to move forward
and not get swallowed by guilt
- Tobias Church
- Organized, planner, sees the big picture
- Knows he’s a villain and delights in it
- Vows to break Wild Dog
- Men are loyal
- Prometheus
- Not in episode
- List of suspects is long (Michelle’s list is long)
- Bratva
- Bratva is family
- Anatoly must have a lot of trust with his men if his men are
okay with him bringing an American into the family
- D.A. Adrian Chase
- Get a little dirty to clean up the filth
- All of the justice now comes from vigilantes
CURRENT EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS & POP CULTURE REFERENCES
Season Episode “Penance” (Date: 26 Oct 2016)
Article:
http://comicbook.com/2016/10/27/arrow-easter-eggs-and-other-things-you-might-have-missed-in-pena/
- The Name Game - Artemis and Mr. Terrific got their names this
week
- Kord Industries - Kord Industries, a fixture in seasons 2 and 3
but less common in 4 and so far in 5, is the name of the tech
company owned and operated by Ted Kord. In the comics, Ted is one
of three people who have gone by the name of Blue Beetle. A heroic
legacy that started in 1940, Kord’s version of the Blue Beetle was
the most Green Arrow-like: an inventor and industrialist who didn’t
have any special powers but who did have a lot of tech, mostly
Beetle-themed. It’s rumored that he was supposed to be the
character who eventually evolved into Ray Palmer, but DC had other
plans for the character — widely believed to be the forthcoming
Booster Gold movie.
- Tech Village - This not-quite-a-Best-Buy is the name of the
store where Felicity Smoak worked at the beginning Arrow’s third
season. This may be the first time it's had an in-story reference
in at least a full season that wasn't just a brief callback to
"Felicity worked there once." It is also, due to Ray Palmer's
attempts to recruit Felicity to work for him, a subsidiary of
Palmer Tech.
- Palmer Tech - Of course, this is the company formerly owned by
Ray Palmer, and then Felicity Smoak. Before that, it was Oliver’s
company, which he signed over to Ravager as part of Deathstroke’s
attack on Oliver and the city. It’s unclear who owns it now — maybe
it’s just whichever stockholder has a plurality and nobody exciting
at all — but after four years of the company being one of the most
regularly-used sets on the show, this is the first time we’ve gone
back this year.
- Amertek - Church took RPGs from Amertek? We weren’t going to
mention Amertek necessarily, since we just talked about it a couple
of episodes ago, but it’s definitely worth noting that in the
comics, the company’s most notorious weapon is a modified RPG
colloquially called a Toastmaster, which was designed by John Henry
Irons during his time working for Ametek.
- Cell 1138 - John’s cell number is a nod to THX 1138, George
Lucas’s directorial debut. It’s arguably better known among the
average moviegoer for giving the first bit of its name to THX,
Lucas’s revolutionary sound system, but the film itself remains one
of Lucas’s best-reviewed works and a reminder that he did great
work outside of just Star Wars and Indiana Jones. It’s worth noting
that at one point in the film, the title character THX and one of
his fellow prisoners (SEN 5241) stage a jail break from a facility
where most of the other inmates have no desire to leave — kind of
like Diggle had no desire to leave at the start of the
episode.
- Molecular Destabilizer - That spray, used to immediately and
dramatically destabilize the molecules in anything it's sprayed on
(how does it stay in the bottle?), feels like a nod to the
universal solvent in the first arc of All-Star Squadron.In that
story, a solvent designed by villain Dr. Zodiak was used to
dissolve everything from walls to guns, and made the gimmick
weapons used by a number of Justice Society of America members
pretty useless.
- Callback - This one is kind of an odd mention, but it's
interesting to note that Friedkin's comments to Oliver in jail --
"do you think you scare me more than him?" -- are echoed in the
present day almost immediately by the man being interrogated by
Adrian Chase.
ARROW NEWS:
- Marc Guggenheim reveals the title of Arrow’s 100th episode
(Date: 23 Oct 2016)
While Arrow takes its hundredth episode to celebrate the four-plus
seasons that have come before, it also has to balance the needs of
a four-show crossover that will bring Supergirl into The Flash,
Arrow, and DC's Legends of Tomorrow. Guggenheim said, "Arrow
episode 508 is called 'Invasion!' with the exclamation point. And
Legends of Tomorrow 207 is going to be 'Invasion!'. I'll leave it
up to you to guess what The Flash is called."
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/23/marc-guggenheim-reveals-the-title-of-arrows-100th-episode/
- Is Tommy Merlyn really Prometheus? (Date:23 Oct 2016)
The article discusses the possibility that Tommy Merlyn could be
Prometheus. Tommy could be alive due to Flashpoint or Malcolm using
the Lazarus pit. Since producers like Marc Guggenheim has said
“Oliver bears a measure of responsibility for the creation of
Prometheus,” longtime viewers are convinced the villain is more so
connected to Oliver as a person than as a vigilante.
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/24/arrow-is-tommy-merlyn-really-prometheus-/
- Stephen Amell posts bloody Arrow selfie (Date: xx month
year)
“Arrow” lead Stephen Amell has posted a bloody selfie indicating
that he shot quite a violent scene over the weekend. Amell is
sporting long locks and facial hair, indicating that this beating
he takes will occur during one of “Arrow’s” trademark flashback
sequences.
Link:http://www.cbr.com/stephen-amell-posts-bloody-arrow-selfie/
- David Ramsey reveals how Diggle will respond to Flashpoint
changes (Date:24 Oct 2016)
Flashpoint changed Diggle’s family. How will Diggle handle the
revelation? "Much more compassionately than you might think,"
Ramsey said. "Diggle can't miss anything he's never had and
'Flashpoint' changes history -- it changes his history directly --
so he never can really miss Baby Sara anymore, because he never had
her, but he is concerned about Barry. Barry's actions were
reckless, and with all that power, being reckless -- to someone as
disciplined as Diggle -- comes as a shock."
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/24/david-ramsey-reveals-how-diggle-will-respond-to-flashpoint-chang/
- Arrow season 5 episode 10 title revealed (Date: 25 Oct
2016)
Marc Guggenheim has taken to Twitter and finally revealed the title
for Season Five’s tenth episode. The tenth episode of Season Five
is called “Who Are You?” Guggenheim informed fans that the episode
was now in production under director’s Gregory Smith
guidance.
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/26/arrow-season-5-episode-10-title-revealed/
- Arrow: Wild Dog, Artemis, & more weigh in on their character’s
pasts (Date: 26 Oct 2016)
Wild Dog. Artemis. Ragman. Aside from their involvement in Team
“Arrow,” fans know virtually nothing about Oliver Queen’s new
recruits — but that’s about to change. Though the three “Arrow”
stars were unable to offer too many details, Joe Dinicol, Madison
McLaughlin and Rick Gonzales teased some new information about
where their characters came from, why they became vigilantes and
what affects their dynamic within the team.
Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrow-wild-dog-artemis-more-weigh-in-on-their-characters-pasts/
- Stephen Amell reveals how Arrow’s hundredth episode begins
(Date: 26 Oct 2016)
“The hundredth episode of Arrow begins in a very appropriate way:
it begins with Oliver running," Amell revealed. "We've had him
running into the premiere almost every year, we didn't have him
running in this year, but we have him running in the hundredth
episode."
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/26/stephen-amell-reveals-how-arrows-hundredth-episode-begins/
- Arrow’s Stephen Amell talks Casey Jones/Wild Dog comparisons
(Date: 26 Oct 2016)
Amell has a sense of humor about Wild Dog being in a hockey mask
like Casey Jones. "One of the producers asked me, 'Do you think
this is too on the nose?' I was like, 'No, becuase why are we doing
this show if we're not going to have fun with something like
that?'"
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/25/arrows-stephen-amell-talks-casey-jones-wild-dog-comparisons/
- The comic book history of the Vigilante (Date: 26 Oct
2016)
The article focuses on the Adrian Chase story as that is the
version currently popping up on Arrow. His origin was pretty
straight forward. His role as a D.A. put him on someone’s hit list
and his family got killed because of it. By the second issue of the
series, Chase was already questioning his choice of taking the law
into his own hands. The character was a unique look into the side
of vigilantism that doesn’t normally get addressed in comics. We
see the physical and legal ramifications and even some of the
aspects of getting lost in the battle.
Link:http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/10/26/comic-book-history-vigilante/
- Arrow: Is Adrian Chase the Vigilante already? Actor Jose
Segarra weighs in (Date: 26 Oct 2016)
In the season 5 premiere of Arrow, Felicity Smoak showed Oliver
Queen an image of somebody wearing ski goggles. Supposedly a police
artist's sketch of an anonymous vigilante working in Star City,
Team Arrow haven't mentioned him again since -- although longtime
comic book readers recognized him. The image was that of Adrian
Chase -- better known as Vigilante. So if tonight is Vigilante's
genesis, what's the deal with that police sketch? We asked Josh
Segarra, who plays Chase, to clarify. "That's what I think is going
to be interesting, is what parts of the comic are we going to get
to put on the show?" He responded when ComicBook.com asked him
about the police sketch. "I know the answer to that but the
audience don't. But that's what been great is that we're trying to
keep it as much as we can in that world, but also keep it exciting
because I don't want any plot twists to be a thing where people are
expecting something and don't get them.So I'm hoping that we get
the right pieces along the way. So now I'm getting to tell that
backstory and we get to tell the biggest pieces and get to show him
becoming who he is before episode 7."
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/27/arrow-is-adrian-chase-the-vigilante-already-actor-josh-segarra-w/
- How Deadshot’s Surprise Cameo Came to Be (Date: 20 Oct
2016)
Marc Guggenheim was asked how the surprise came to be and it's
actually a pretty simple story. “It's always a case-by-case
thing. In this case, it was really simple. I went to the writers'
room, this was a pitch on the table, I shot an email off to [DC
Comics CCO] Geoff Johns, I got a response back, and Deadshot's in
the episode.”
Link:https://www.cinemablend.com/television/1568149/how-arrows-surprise-suicide-squad-cameo-came-to-be
- People’s Choice awards (Date: xx month year)
Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, and Legends are on the list for best
Sci-Fi/Fantasy show; Stephen Amell is up for Sci-Fi/Fantasy actor
and social media star. You can choose up to five for each category.
Can write in nominees. Starting November 15th, the voting process
for the winners start.
Link:http://www.peopleschoice.com/pca/
DC TV NEWS
- Flash, Supergirl join team Arrow in CW crossover pic (Date:
24 Oct 2016)
A photo posted by “Arrow” actor Rick Gonzalez teased the team-up,
which fans will see hit their TV sets in a month’s time. The image
shows “Arrow” characters Ragman (Joe Dinicol), Mister Terrific
(Echo Kellum) and Wild Dog (Rick Gonzalez) standing alongside other
series’ leads the Flash (Grant Gustin) and Supergirl (Melissa
Benoist) as well as director James Bamford. This year’s crossover
between CW’s DC shows will begin in “Supergirl” on November 28 and
continue through the week’s DC shows, including “Flash” on November
29, “Arrow” on November 30 and “Legends of Tomorrow” on December
1.
Link:http://www.cbr.com/flash-supergirl-join-team-arrow-in-cw-crossover-pic/
- Meet the new Vixen..or is that the old Vixen.. (Date: 23
Oct 2016)
With the second season of DC’s Legends of Tomorrow we’ve been
introduced to a second woman wearing the Vixen costume. Maisie
Richardson-Sellers plays Amaya Jiwe the grandmother of Mari McCabe
(Megalyn Echikunwoke). In the video below she talks about her
character and how the sensibilities of the 1940’s work into who she
is.
Link:http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/10/23/meet-new-vixen-old-vixen/
- 15 times Supergirl empowered women (Date: 25 Oct 2016)
Part of the show’s appeal is that young fans can safely watch
“Supergirl” without parents worrying about its content. Because
“Supergirl” doesn’t have bloody violence or sex scenes, pint-sized
audiences can dig on the superhero genre, all the while watching a
a female superhero who is worthy of their admiration.The show has a
dreamy view of the world that encompasses diversity, fairness and
empowerment. Let’s take a look at 15 times “Supergirl” empowered
women.
Link:http://www.cbr.com/15-times-supergirl-empowered-women/
- The Flash’s Danielle Panabaker on the Invasion! Crossover, and
why she’s excited Caitlin is single (Date: 25 Oct
2016)
The Flash's Danielle Panabaker joined ComicBook.com to talk about
how excited she was to get to be a part of the Arrow hundredth
episode, which is part of said crossover. Also in the article is a
video of ComicBook.com’s interview with Rick Cosnett, who played
Eddie Thawne on The Flash, During the interview, Rick hints that
Eddie could return.
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/25/the-flashs-danielle-panabaker-on-the-invasion-crossover-and-why-/
- Arrowverse will offer Damien Darhk a chance for redemption
(Date: 27 Oct 2016)
Damien Darhk may have died in the “Arrow” Season 4 finale, but
that’s not the end of his story. Neal McDonough — who plays the
nefarious head of HIVE — has a recurring role on “DC’s Legends of
Tomorrow,” another series in The CW’s “Arrow”-verse, and there he
may just find himself on the side of the angels. Asked if there was
any way Darhk could be redeemed, McDonough said, “Just had that
conversation. Yes. There is one way that we can redeem him.” As to
whether or not we’ll see that sometime soon, he added, “At some
point, you will.”
Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrowverse-will-offer-damien-darhk-a-chance-for-redemption/
NEXT EPISODE
Promo for Next Week: Episode - “Human Target” (Date: 26 Oct
2016)
Article:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/26/arrow-season-5-episode-5-human-target-sneak-preview/
Episode: “Human Target” [Season 5 Episode 5]
Air Date: Wednesday,
November 2, 2016
Summary: When Tobias Church captures and
tortures one of Oliver's new recruits, Oliver must turn to an old
friend, Christopher Chance AKA the Human Target, for help.
Meanwhile, Felicity's worlds collide when Detective Malone joins
the ACU.
Director: Laura Belsey
Writers: Oscar
Balderrama and Sarah Tarkoff
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584148/?ref_=tt_ep_nx
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