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The Starling Tribune is a podcast dedicated to the CW's Arrow TV Show and the other DC Comics TV Shows on the CW channel as well as the DC Universe in general. Each week the reporters and their chief editor will get together to discuss the latest episode of the hit CW show Arrow. The Starling Tribune is a proud member of the GonnaGeek Podcast Network found at

May 29, 2017

Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – Lian Yu (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) #154


The Official Arrow and Green Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network Covering DC Comics and CW Based DC Comic TV Shows


Episode:            “Lian Yu” [Season 5 Episode 23]

Air Date:           Wednesday, May 24, 2017

Director:           Jesse Warn


            6x Arrow | 8x The Originals | 1x Riverdale | 4x The Flash | 1 Supergirl | 2x The Shannara Chronicles | 4x The Vampire Diaries | 8x Spartacus: War of the Damned | 1x Spartacus: Gods of the Arena


Writers: Wendy Mericle


Arrow showrunner | 21x Arrow


Marc Guggenheim


Executive producer Arrow, Legends | 14x Arrow | 8x Legends




Weekly Ratings




Season high (non-crossover) - 02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

Season low -20 Underneath 3-May-17 1.36


Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17 1.68

11 Second Chances 1-Feb-17 1.91

12 Bratva 8-Feb-17 1.61

13 Spectre Of The Gun 15-Feb-17 1.66

14 The Sin-Eater 22-Feb-17 1.54

15 Fighting Fire with Fire 1-Mar-17 1.60

16 Checkmate 15-Mar-17 1.53

17 Kapiushon 22-Mar-17 1.38

18 Disbanded 29-Mar-17 1.55

19 Dangerous Liaisons 26-Apr-17 1.36

20 Underneath 3-May-17 1.36

21 Honor Thy Fathers 10-May-17 1.65

22 Missing 17-May-17 1.44

23 Lian Yu 24-May-17 1.72


Legends Of Tomorrow


Season high (non-crossover)- 01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01

Season low -14 Moonshoot 14-Mar-17 1.34


Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01

02 Justice Society of America 20-Oct-2016 2.83

03 Shogun 27-Oct-2016 2.71

04 Abominations 3-Nov-2016 1.75

05 Compromised 10-Nov-2016 1.77

06 Outlaw Country 17-Nov-2016 1.85

07 Invasion 1-Dec-2016 3.39

08 The Chicago Way 8-Dec-2016 2.00

09 Raiders Of The Lost Art 24-Jan-2016 1.74

10 The Legion Of Doom 31-Jan-2017 1.78

11 Turncoat 7-Feb-17 1.89

12 Camelot/3000 21-Feb-17 1.64

13 Land Of The Lost 7-Mar-17 1.54

14 Moonshoot 14-Mar-17 1.34

15 Fellowship of the Spear 21-Mar-17 1.72

16 Doomworld 28-Mar-17 1.59

17 Aruba 4-Apr-17 1.52




Season high (non-crossover) - 01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06

Season low -19 Alex 1-May-17 1.75


Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06

02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66

03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65

04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22

05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47

06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35

07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61

08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53

09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17 2.65

10 We Can Be Heroes 30-Jan-17 2.35

11 The Martian Chronicles 6-Feb-17 2.4

12 Luthors 13-Feb-17 2.52

13 Mr. & Mrs. Mxyzptlk 20-Feb-17 2.24

14 Homecoming 27-Feb-17 2.17

15 Exodus 6-Mar-17 2.16

16 Star-Crossed 20-Mar-17 2.07

17 Distant Sun 27-Mar-17 2.21

18 Ace Reporter 24-Apr-17 1.80

19 Alex 1-May-17 1.75

20 City of Lost Children 8-May-17 1.88

21 Resist 15-May-17 1.93

22 Nevertheless She Persisted 22-May-17 2.12




Season high (non-crossover) - 01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

Season low - 18 Abra Kadabra 28-Mar-17 2.39


Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17 2.68

11 Dead Or Alive 31-Jan-17 3.06

12 Untouchable 7-Feb-17 2.94

13 Attack on Gorilla City 21-Feb-17 2.78

14 Attack On Central City 28-Feb-17 2.87

15 The Wrath of Savitar 7-Mar-17 2.52

16 Into The Speed Force 14-Mar-17 2.39

17 Duet 21-Mar-17 2.71

18 Abra Kadabra 28-Mar-17 2.39

19 The Once And Future Flash 25-Apr-17 2.67

20 I Know Who You Are 2-May-17 2.69

21 Cause and Effect 9-May-17 2.71

22 Infantino Street 16-May-17 2.48

23 Finish Line 23-May-17 3.04


Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

  • What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
    • Back to where it all began - the island
  • Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
    • Cages
      • Boomerang betrays; Chase made better offer
      • Talia threatens Samantha
      • Slade seems to change sides
      • Artemis puts gun to Ollie’s head
      • Slade attacks Boomerang
      • Ollie flips Artemis over
      • Talia and Boomerang smoke out after Nyssa and Merlyn arrive
      • Samantha, Felicity, Thea and Curtis freed
    • Nyssa confronts Talia
      • Nyssa upset Talia left her to face father alone
      • Talia - hey, daddy not gonna give ring to me, so went my own way
      • Talia - how dare you side with father’s killer
      • Nyssa - father always ashamed of me
      • Nyssa and Talia fight with swords, kicks
      • Nyssa wins
      • Ninjas attack; Slade takes care of them
      • Talia - kill me, dad would want you to; Nyssa - knocks her out
    • Ollie caught
      • Slade seems to betray again
      • Ollie taken by Siren to Diggle, Lance, Rene, and Dinah
      • Sonic dampener stopped cry; Ollie gives her Curtis’s device
      • Dinah screams them free
      • Dinah and Black Siren fight - cry against each other; knocks them back; Lance knocks out Siren
      • Talia’s ninjas aren’t that talented - Slade takes care of many, so does Diggle; Rene beats a couple of them up
      • Ollie chases Chase; they fight (cut with fight w/Kovar)
      • Chase wants Ollie to kill him
      • Ollie has Chase in chokehold (cut with same hold w/Kovar)
      • Rest of team there; Ollie doesn’t kill Chase
    • Final fight on boat
      • Fight between Ollie and Chase
      • Chase has William
      • Ollie shoots Chase in foot
      • Chase kills himself; island goes boom
  • Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
    • Ollie vs. Kovar
      • Ollie fights guys with guns hand-to-hand, breaks guy’s neck, gets gun
      • Ollie shoots guys
      • Ollie sets trap, impales guy with tree
      • Ollie shoots down Kovar’s helicopter
      • Ollie and Kovar fight; Ollie breaks his neck (cut between fight with Chase)
    • Ollie:  
      • I don’t want to rely on Slade; knocked out Argus guard to free Slade; gave Slade info on his son (Joseph Wilson, aka Jericho)
      • Slade - your pasts haunts you because you suffer from survivor’s guilt; have to forgive self for surviving and for sins
      • Why didn’t he have everyone go to the Argus ship????
      • I’m not a killer anymore
      • Done blaming self
    • Diggle
      • Beats up ninjas
    • Thea
      • We are orphans because of Slade and Merlyn
      • Steps on the only land mine on island
      • Doesn’t want Merlyn to save her, but he shoves her out of way
      • Misses Merlyn; saw the father he could have been
    • Felicity
      • Kisses Ollie
      • Talks about evil dad taking bullet for her
    • Quentin Lance
      • Knocks out Black Siren
      • Calls Dinah “Black Canary”
    • Curtis / Mr. Terrific
      • Makes bad joke about finding plane after Merlyn sacrifices himself
    • Rene / Wild Dog
      • Beats up ninjas
    • Dinah Drake / Black Canary
      • Fight against Black Siren
    • Artemis
      • Smug; maybe leaving me part of plan
      • Still wants Ollie dead
    • Rory / Ragman
      • Last minute save?
    • D.A. Adrian Chase / Prometheus
      • 10 steps ahead still
      • Plants bombs all over island - how did he get $$$$
      • Was taking William always part of the plan? Force Ollie to choose between son and the team?
      • Would he have killed William?
      • Wanted to die all this time - deadman switch; he dies, all die
      • All of this because Ollie killed a father that wasn’t there for him?
      • What we know:
        • Claybourne’s son; knows about The List; has moves Ollie learned from Talia; learned about Flash & co and multiple universes
    • Who is alive? Who is dead?
      • Ollie - on boat - alive
      • William - on boat - alive
      • Prometheus - on boat - dead (shot himself)
      • Felicity - on island
      • Diggle - on island
      • Curtis - on island
      • Dinah - on island - alive (actor promoted to series regular)
      • Rene - on island - alive (actor promoted to series regular)
      • Thea - on island
      • Merlyn - on island - dead - landmine - JB confirmed
      • Boomerang - on island - dead - Merlyn
      • Talia - on island
      • Nyssa - on island
      • Black Siren - on island - alive (actor promoted to series regular)
      • Samantha - on island
      • Slade - on island
      • Artemis - on island in cage
      • Quentin - on island
      • Argus guard




  1. The Arrow Easter Egg That Sealed One Character's Fate (Date: 24 May 2017)
    Before Oliver (Stephen Amell) had his final showdown with Konstantin Kovar (Dolph Lundgren) in the flashbacks on tonight's episode of Arrow, the show gave a look ahead at the Bratva boss's destiny. Earlier in the episode, as Oliver, Slade, and Talia were exploring Lian Yu, the camera panned across the forest floor to reveal a set of skeletal remains wearing a black leather jacket. The body was that of Konstantin Kovar, who wouldn't die at Oliver's hand for about another 20 minutes in the episode.
  2. Arrow's John Barrowman Licks Katrina Law's Donut (Date: 24 May 2017)
    Katrina Law, who returned to her role as Nyssa al Ghul in tonight's episode, shared a video taken while on set. In it, Law talks to Nick E. Tarabay (Digger Harkness/Captain Boomerang) about her love of donuts, seemingly unaware that John Barrowman (Malcolm Merlyn) is behind her. Barrowman taps Law on the shoulder, sneaks up behind her, and licks her donut. And in traditional Arrow fashion, the video is accompanied by dramatic music and camera movements.
  3. Arrow: John Barrowman Confirms He's Done With The Arrowverse (Date: 25 May 2017)
    Here’s what Barrowman had to say about his exit: “I am very sad to be leaving the Arrowverse. I love playing Malcolm Merlyn, and you know - that’s it really. As sad as it may be, I understand how shows must change and also characters must change and develop. But that doesn’t mean I’m not very sad and upset about it. I appreciate your support and love you all,” the actor told fans.


  1. The CW Boss On Plans For New 4-Series DC Crossover & Peak Superhero TV (Date: 18 May 2017)
    The now-traditional DC superhero crossover on the CW will be back next season with another big four-series event in the fourth quarter, more specifically November. Like the very successful four-night crossover last December, which delivered the CW’s most watched week in six years, the stunt will include the DC series on the fall schedule, Supergirl, The Flash, Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow.
  2. Supergirl Season 2 Blu-ray, DVD Information Released (Date: 24 May 2017)
    The CW and Warner Bros home entertainment have announced that Supergirl: The Complete Second Season will release on Blu-ray and DVD on Aug. 22, 2017. The set contains all 22 episodes of Supergirl’s second season, an exclusive commentary with Andrew Kreisberg and Kevin Smith, the show’s 2016 Comic-Con panel, featurettes, and more extras.
  3. Supergirl: Cat Grant Won’t Be Series Regular in Season 3 (Date: 25 May 2017)
    While Flockhart was listed as a series regular by The CW in press release for Season Three, the actress won’t be a full-time cast member. Instead, she’s expected to appear as a guest star in a handful of episodes, “if the scheduling can be worked out.” Given the revelation that Cat has known Kara’s biggest secret for some time, fans will undoubtedly hope schedules do work out, as Kara could surely use some sage advice from her mentor as she faces more challenges.



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This podcast was recorded Thursday May 25th, 2017.


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