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The Starling Tribune is a podcast dedicated to the CW's Arrow TV Show and the other DC Comics TV Shows on the CW channel as well as the DC Universe in general. Each week the reporters and their chief editor will get together to discuss the latest episode of the hit CW show Arrow. The Starling Tribune is a proud member of the GonnaGeek Podcast Network found at

Oct 24, 2016

Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – A Matter Of Trust (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)


The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network


Episode:          “A Matter of Trust” [Season 5  Episode 3]

Air Date:          Wednesday, October 19, 2016

Director:     Gregory Smith


                   5x Arrow | 3x Legends of Tomorrow


Writers:      Ben Sokolowski


16x Arrow | 2x The Flash


Emilio Ortega Aldrich


6x Arrow



Weekly Ratings


Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 5-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 5-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 5-Oct-16

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16


Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

  • What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
    • People in teams need to trust each other
      • Green Arrow needs to trust Wild Dog and the rest of his team
      • Mayor Queen needs to trust Thea
      • Ollie has to trust Anatoly when it comes to the Bratva
  • Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
    • Sampson/Stardust is just brutal
    • Final fight
      • Severing the tendons was badass
      • Slow mo explosion walkaway???  
      • Everyone does it in Superhero shows might be overplayed.  Smallville was the worst about it though.
  • Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
    • Not all is what it seems in Bratva
      • Ollie has to learn to trust Anatoly and Bratva
  • Ollie:  
    • This is all about him learning to trust his teams and step up as mayor
  • Diggle
    • In prison - sees vision of Deadshot (nice swerve to make us think he’s back due to Flashpoint)
    • Guilt about brother’s death
    • Tells Lyla to tell John Jr. that he loves him
    • Doesn’t want anyone to break him out of jail
  • Thea
    • Admits to messing up
    • Gets played by reporter
    • Tells reporter that she won’t get played again
  • Felicity
    • Tells Ollie that he needs to step up as a leader
    • Is able to teach the team how Ollie works
    • Listens to Curtis and tells Rory
  • Quentin Lance
    • Back on the wagon?
    • Will his stay sober and be effective as deputy mayor?
    • Deputy Mayor - Michelle Called it
  • Curtis
    • Mr. Terrific is his idol
    • Is the voice of reason - tells Felicity she has to tell Rory about Havenrock
    • Suits up - has a “T” for a mask
    • Calls it “The Arrowcave”
  • Wild Dog
    • Goes off on own - “kills” Derek Sampson/Stardust; hurts DA case
    • Realizes trust has to go both ways
  • Artemis
    • Has a mask
    • She’s not doing much yet
  • Ragman / Rory
    • Walks away when Felicity tells him the truth
  • Tobias Church
    • In control of the city
  • Prometheus
    • Detective Billy Malone (Felicity’s BF) lures Ollie to tell him that Prometheus wants to kill the Green Arrow
  • Bratva
    • Anatoly tells Ollie that he needs Bratva to be his army against Kovar
  • Arrow Cave is canon now!
  • D.A. Adrian Chase
    • Meet for first time
    • Met Ollie 12 year ago - GF went home with Ollie
    • Pleased that Green Arrow got Samson
  • Derek Sampson
    • Cody Rhodes was pretty good.
    • He’s small in the WWE world but he and Amell paired up well in fight scenes. Makes you realize in pro-wrestling he might be small but in life he’s a big dude


 Season Episode  “A Matter of Trust” (Date:20 Oct 2016)

  1. “A Matter of Trust” is the name of a Billy Joel song; Marc Guggenheim is a huge Billy Joel song. The song’s title happens to fit this episode’s theme.
  2. Stardust -  Stardust, the name of the drug in this week's episode, has some special resonance for guest star Cody Runnels, also known as Cody Rhodes, the WWE Superstar formerly known as Stardust.
  3. Cody Runnels - He's Runnels here, not Rhodes, in the opening credits.That's likely because he doesn't actually own the trademark to "Cody Rhodes," his stage name with the WWE. Since Rhodes's father was Dusty Rhodes, he and his brother took on the family name when they came into professional wrestling. Now that he's no longer a member of the WWE family, he might not have easy access to his actual family's stage name.
  4. John Jr, - This is the first on-camera reference to John Diggle, Jr. in Arrow. Last week on The Flash, fans learned that John Diggle, friend and former bodyguard to Oliver Queen, has a son -- and that was a surprise. That's right: Barry Allen's excellent "Flashpoint" adventure through time created the unintended consequence of giving John Diggle a son -- John Diggle, Jr. -- rather than the daughter -- Sara Diggle -- fans got to know after she was born in season 3 of the hit CW drama.
  5. Deadshot - Deadshot, a member of the Suicide Squad and the deadly assassin long thought to have murdered John Diggle's brother, showed up in a vision to Dig this week, haunting him for killing Andy himself last season.
  6. Susan Williams - Susan Williams is, in the comics, the sister-in-law of Hal Jordan, one of Earth's Green Lanterns. Created by John Broome and Gil Kane in the early days of the Silver Age Green Lantern titles, Susan was a bit of a rabble-rouser then, too; she ended up in a relationship with one of the Jordan brothers while digging around into who Green Lantern was.
  7. Falling into a vat of chemicals is similar to the origin of the Joker
  8. Adrian Chase - Adrian Chase is introduced this week. The hot-headed, good-looking district attorney is actually better known as Vigilante in the comics.Created during Marv Wolfman's time on the New Teen Titans, Vigilante in the comics is a former New York district attorney who's set on the path of justice after his family is killed by the mob. The CW describes him similarly: Chase is "Star City’s new district attorney and an ally of Mayor Oliver Queen (Stephen Amell), who aims to clean up the streets through the legal system."
  9. “You have failed this city” make an appearance - like season 1
  10. Lethal Weapon - Stardust burns his arm
  11. Terry Sloane - This week, we finally got to see Curtis suit up, going into the field in his Mister Terrific costume for the first time. He hasn't yet identified himself using the "Mister Terrific" name, although he did namecheck Terry Sloane -- the Golden Age Mr. Terrific from the comics -- as his inspiration (and the inspiration for the "Fair Play" jacket he wears).
  12. Trope of cool guy walking toward camera with explosion in background
  13. Oliver thinking Wild Dog’s hockey mask is “cool” is likely a reference to Amell’s role of Casey Jones in ‘Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows.’
  14. Curtis calls it the “Arrowcave”



  1. Arrowverse Crossover is ‘very, very faithful’ to DC’s Invasion!  (Date: 14 Oct 2016)
    Marc Guggenheim promises that the crossover will be faithful to the story in the comics. In the comics, the Dominators assemble a coalition of extraterrestrial races to invade Earth, with the goal of eliminating the threat posed by metahumans. Unknown to their allies, the Dominators intend to harness the metagene and create their own army of metahumans. Guggenheim says that the crossover will be “just big, bombastic, huge action.”
  2. Who are the Dominators? The Arrowverse crossover villains explained (Date: 15 Oct 2016)
    This article is a good look at the villains of the upcoming crossover between “Arrow,” “The Flash,” “Legends of Tomorrow.” and “Supergirl.”
  3. Arrow’s ‘Human Target’ synopsis calls in Christopher Chance  (Date: 15 Oct 2016)
    The November 2nd episode is titled “Human Target.” In this episode, Oliver will call an old friend for help. Wil Traval (Jessica Jones) will play Christopher Chance, aka the Human Target, a private investigator and bodyguard who assumes the identities of clients mark for assassination. This is not the Human Target’s first TV appearance. Rick Springfield starred as Christopher Chance on a short-lived drama that aired in 1992 on ABC, and FOX aired its adaptation in 2011, which starred Mark Valley (John Scott on Fringe).
  4. The Comic Book history of Ragman (Date: 17 Oct 2016)
    Bleeding Cool takes an in-depth look at the long and complex history of Ragman.
  5. ‘Arrow’ boss on Diggle’s dire predicament (Date: 10 Oct 2016)
    Diggle will soon discover that Chechnya is the wrong place to find his moral compass, leading to Diggle’s return to Star City. Diggle’s storyline will carry into episode 12, so it will be a major part of the season.
  6. Guggenheim reveals Captain Cold’s ‘Legends’ return, talks ‘Arrow’s’ 100th episode (Date: 18 Oct 2016)
    Marc Guggenheim discusses Captain Cold’s return to ‘Legends,’ which will be in that show’s midseason finale, episode 208, but how he returns hasn’t been revealed. Also, Cold will be part of the Legion of Doom. The 100th episode of ‘Arrow’ promises to be big with appearances by John Barrowman as Merlin and Neal McDonough as Damian Darhk; the 100th episode will also be part of the big crossover, but Guggenheim says that the 100th will be ‘Arrow’-centric.


  1. Michelle Legends of Tomorrow ratings dip for season 2 premiere (Date: 14 Oct 2016)
    Season two premiere of Legends has suffered a dip, scoring just a 0.6 in the key 18-49 demographic and 1.84 million viewers. However, the show was up against football and MLB’s World Series
  2. Michelle The Flash EP describes Caitlin Snow’s relationship with her mom (Date: 15 Oct 2016)
    Flash spoiler: In an upcoming episode, we will meet Caitlin’s mother, Dr. Tannhauser (guest star Susan Walters), a renowned biomedical researcher. Caitlin will seek out her mother’s help as she continues to transform into Killer Frost.
  3. Michelle Supergirl EP on whether Cat Grant knows Kara’s secret identity (Date: 18 Oct 2016)
    Article discusses if Cat knows if Supergirl is Kara. It also covers why the writers have backed off from the Jimmy/Kara romance, how Kara’s new boss, Snapper Carr is different from Cat, and the tension between Mon-El and Kara.
  4. Chris Mirror Master debuts in new Flash promo (Date: 19 Oct 2016)
    The Rogues are back for next week’s episode of “The Flash” — or the “New Rogues,” — as the episode is titled. “Star Crossed” actor Grey Damon makes his DC Comics debut as the infamous Mirror Master. The Top, played by Ashley Rickards, will also be appearing, alongside the very familiar, very missed face of Captain Cold. When Mirror Master and The Top go looking for Cold, they’ll run into a little trouble with The Flash and his new speedster-in-training, Jesse Quick.
  5. Chris How Supergirl gets into the Crossover (Date: 20 Oct 2016)
    The 100th episode will, in fact, be part 3 of that crossover, and executive producer Marc Guggenheim recently spoke to Collider on how Supergirl is fitting in with the Arrowverse.  "Last year, Supergirl established that The Flash was able to make his way to what I call Earth-CBS, and it stands to reason that with the proper breach technology, the reverse can happen. Once the heroes realize that they’re up against aliens, they decide that they need an alien on their side and, fortunately, Barry knows a really nice one. I don’t think it’s a big shock that, between Barry and Cisco, and all of their experiences with Earth-2 and the multi-verse, that they can pluck her from Earth-CBS."


  1. Chris Mark Hamill Dressed Like The Joker on Flash Set? (Date: 20 Oct 2016)
    Hamill was spotted on the set of The Flashl ooking decidedly Joker-esque. Considering that Flash is currently exploring an alternate timeline in its "Flashpoint" season, it's possible this is a Joker inspired alternate version of the Trickster. Or maybe, just maybe, many fans will get their wish and finally see Hamill take the role of the Clown Prince of Crime into live action.


  1. Michelle Hot Topic’s New DC-Based Jackets Look Sort of Great (Date:20 Oct 2016)
    Hot Topic is introducing new jackets based on the DC TV shows including Gotham, The Flash, Arrow, and Supergirl. There is also one based on the White Canary. The jackets cost $70 -80



  1. Batman, DC sit atop comic book sales charts again in September  (Date: 14 Oct 2016)
    DC is the Direct Market sales leader for the third consecutive months. DC also has 8 out of the top 10 comic books: Batman #6, All-Star Batman #2, Batman #7, Justice League #4, Trinity #1, Supergirl #1, Suicide Squad #2, and Justice League #5. Civil War II #5 and The Walking Dead #158 round out the list.
  1. DC’s new action figures include a triumvirate of awesome female superheroes (Date: 18 Oct 2016)
    Supergirl, Vixen, and Wonder Woman get action figures. Supergirl does look like Melissa Benoist. Vixen will be ‘Arrow’s’ Vixen, not the one from ‘Legends.’    



Promo for Next Week: Episode - “Penance” (Date: 26 Oct 2016)

Episode:   “Penance” [Season 5 Episode 4]

Air Date:       Wednesday, Date October 26. 2016

Summary:    Oliver and Lyla team up on a secret mission for Diggle. Felicity finds out and disapproves of the plan and opts to stay behind. When Tobias Church launches a deadly assault against the city, Felicity must decide if she wants to send the recruits out sans the Green Arrow.

Director:       Dermott Downs

Writers:         Brian Ford Sullivan and Oscar Balderrama



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