Aug 8, 2016
Starling Tribune - Season 4.5 Special Edition – Legends Of Tomorrow Progeny (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)
The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network
Episode: “Progeny” [Season 1 Episode 10]
Air Date: April 7th, 2016
Transcript: http://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?f=557&t=26502
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4932662/?ref_=tt_ep_nx
Director:
David Geddes
Aside from two shorts, this is his only directing credit! BUT
93 cinematographer credits.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0311454/?ref_=tt_ov_dr
LoT: 1x Director | 11x Cinematographer
Cinematographer: 6x The Last Ship | 12x Under the
Dome - Dir Photography | 7x Almost Human | 2x Fringe + 11x Director
of Photography | 16x Supernatural | 1x Constantine | 1x Forever| …
Mentalist, Revolution, Sleepy Hollow, Nikita, Alphas … lots
more
Writers:
Phil Klemmer
One of the producers of Legends of Tomorrow and a key member of the
production team
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0459237/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5
LoT: 15x Exec Producer | 16x Developed by | 5x
Written by | 2x Teleplay by
Other writing credits: 3x Forever | 22x “Developed
By” Tomorrow People | 12x Chuck |
6x Veronica Mars
Marc Guggenheim
Man who needs no introduction - we’ve talked a lot about him
before One of the key figures along with Kriesberg in the
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6
Executive Producer: Arrow | Legends of Tomorrow |
Vixen | No Ordinary Family | Flash Forward
Tons of writing credits, extending beyond the DC TW genre into
video games, comics, movies and more...
Weekly Ratings
Rating: Episode 10 - 1.88 (April 7th, 2016)
- Down from the prior week of 1.97 and part of the end of season slide…
- Arrow: April 6th - Eleven-Fifty-Nine (Ep 4.18) - 2.24 (Andy’s Betrayal, Laurel’s Death)
- The Flash: On break that week - no episode (Back April 19)
- Supergirl: Also on break - no episode (Back April 11)
Links for Other Shows
Arrow:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arrow_episodes#Season_4_.282015.E2.80.9316.29
Flash:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Flash_episodes#Season_2_.282015.E2.80.9316.29
Supergirl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergirl_(TV_series)#Episodes
Episode #
Episode Title
Episode Air Date
Rating
1
Pilot, Part 1
21-Jan-16
3.21
2
Pilot, Part 2
28-Jan-16
2.89
3
Blood Ties
4-Feb-16
2.32
4
White Knights
7-Feb-16
2.39
5
Fail-Safe
18-Feb-16
2.25
6
Star City 2046
25-Feb-16
2.47
7
Marooned
3-Mar-16
2.28
8
Night of the Hawk
10-Mar-16
2.01
9
Left Behind
31-Mar-16
1.97
10
Progeny
7-Apr-16
1.88
11
The Magnificent Eight
12-Apr-16
1.98
12
Last Refuge
21-Apr-16
1.78
13
Leviathan
28-Apr-16
1.86
14
River of Time
5-May-16
1.63
15
Destiny
12-May-16
1.89
16
Legendary
19-May-16
1.85
- What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
- “Progeny”
- Definition: a descendant or the descendants of a person, animal, or plant; offspring.
- Per Degaton, Ray’s unknown Offspring, Rip’s kid, Kendra’s kid in the past...
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- Recurring theme of children
- Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
- Battle at the ship - kinda unnecessary, tacked on to give us a fight
- Time Travel: Share your thoughts
- 2147 - Kasnian Conglomerate
- Wool
- World’s zenith
- 2147 - Kasnian Conglomerate
- Rip Hunter
- Starts the olive branch with Chronos/Mick
- Owns up to having his partner deal with Mick
- Why didn’t he bring other sets of contacts
Did anyone think he would actually pull the trigger? Should he have?
- Vandal Savage
- At the shareholders meeting “The herd must be thinned”
- Tutor to Per Degaton (like Adolf Hitler)
- Gets Per Degaton to kill the Dad
- Population Control
- The Atom - Ray Palmer
- Responsible for this police state world? Did we like the swerve at the end that its his brother?
- White Canary - Sara Lance
- Fantasizes about the nurse --- lucky nurse
- Hawkgirl - Kendra Saunders
- Flashbacks
- Their Son - little Aldus Boardman played by Joshua Jorssen; only imdb credit
- Captain Cold - Leonard Snart
- Sarah tells him to go deal with Mick
- Partner Fight!
- Love the glasses with HUD
- Heatwave - Mick Rory
- Are he and Snart cool now?
- Partner Fight!
- THE HUNTERS
- “He Maroooooned Me”
- “Killing a Kid… Not Very Hero Like”
- Firestorm - Professor Martin Stein
- Stein is wrong - it’s not about trading one son for another, it’s saving billions for one.
- The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?
- Firestorm - Jefferson Jackson
- Waverider/Gideon
- Her early warning systems kind of suck
- Carter
- Flashback...ugh
- Dr. Bryce!!!!
- Kaylee!!!!
- Jewel Staite
- Star Labs took over Star City
- Per Degaton
- Do we know who he is?
EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS:
Season 1 Episode 10 “Progeny” (Date: 31 Mar 2016)
Article:http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/04/08/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-things-you-might-have-missed-in-progeny/
- Kasnia: Kasnia (sometimes Kaznia) is a fictional DC Comics nation-state that's sometimes used as a stand-in for Balkan nations like Yugoslavia.
- Per Degaton: Per Degaton is a longtime DC Comics supervillain, who has battled against the Justice Society, Infinity Inc. and the Time Masters in the comics. His most notable appearances were as a member of an organization called the Time Stealers, who opposed Booster Gold and Rip Hunter and tried to take over Vanishing Point.
- Armageddon Virus: No Armageddon virus" in DC lore but there's Moritcoccus, a mutated offshoot of the OMAC virus sent back from the future. It's the deadliest virus known to human history. There's also Armageddon 2001, a crossover event from the '90s...
- “Would you kill Hitler” trope: You get the old "would you kill Hitler?" trope a lot in this episode...almost literally, since Per Degaton is a Nazi in the comics.
- Coast City reference: Hawkman makes a Coast City reference in Flashback. Coast City, of course, is the home to Green Lantern in the comics. It's been frequently referenced in all of the CW/DC shows.
- Star Labs: Wells's company eventually recovers from the damage to its reputation and bottom line done by the particle accelerator explosion.
- White Dwarf Star Reference: White Dwarf Star material is what Ray Palmer uses in the comics (and on TV) to power his size-changing belt..
- Hannibal Lecter reference: When asked to give a name, Ray identifies himself as Dr. Hannibal Lecter..
- Young Aldus Boardman: In Kendra's flashback timeline, we get to see the young Aldus Boardman, the son of Hawkgirl and Hawkman, who lived his childhood on the run from Vandal Savage until Savage found and killed Boardman's parents.
- ALSO… Star Wars Reference: Turns the little bastard to the Dark Side
ARROW NEWS:
- Stephen Amell shares his thoughts on Mayor Ollie
(Date: 04 Aug 2016)
**Discusses Ollie as mayor, Thea’s role in holding everything together, and Recruiting a team
Link:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sdcc-stephen-amell-talks-mayor-queen-russia-reinvigorated-arrow-season-5 - Stephen Amell meets the Man of Steel (Date: 03 Aug
2016)
Late last night, Amell took to Instagram to share a photo of himself with Tyler Hoechlin -- taken while Hoechlin was in full Superman costume
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/08/04/arrows-stephen-amell-meets-superman-in-behind-the-scenes-photo/ - Echo Kellum give a timeframe for Mr. Teriffic (Date: 03 Aug
2016)
* Will Suit up within the first nine episodes
* “You're going to see him fail and keep striving,"
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/08/03/arrow-season-5-echo-kellum-reveals-when-mr-terrific-will-debut/ - Colton Haynes is in Vancouver… Hmmmmmmm (Date: 01 Aug
2016)
* Instagram pics with Echo Kellum
* no word on if he’s guest starring or just hanging out.
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/08/01/colton-haynes-is-apparently-on-the-set-of-arrow/ - Felicity is getting a new boyfriend - SP, is there
something you want to share??? (Date: 31 July
2016)
* She steps on it pretty hot off the bat. You’ll meet him quite quickly
* How will Oliver react? “I mean, I feel like Oliver will react the way he always reacts,” Amell teased jokingly. “He’ll seek the advice of others, and be totally calm, and not react violently at all. Or whatever the opposite of that is.”
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/07/31/emily-bett-rickards-confirms-felicity-is-getting-a-new-boyfriend/ - Flashpoint will impact Arrow (Date: 31 July 2016)
“It has some impact, but you’ll have to tune in to actually see what it is,” EP Wendy Mericle teased during an interview at SDCC. “It’s been out there and discussed. I will say that it will have a big impact on the characters that it does have an impact on.
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/07/31/arrow-producer-confirms-flashpoint-will-have-some-impact-on-show/
GENERAL DC TV NEWS
- Flash: Barry will get new memories as part of
Flashpoint (Date: 29 July 2016)
<<Summary>>
Link:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/flashpoint-timeline-will-give-barry-allen-new-memories-says-gustin-the-flash - Flash: Flashpoint won’t last all season
(Date: 02 Aug 2016)
* Flashpoint does not last all season long, but there are permanent ramifications."
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/08/02/the-flash-season-3-flashpoint-wont-last-all-season/ - LoT: Matthew MacCaull has been cast as
Commander Steel (Date: 04 Aug 2016)
iZombie alumni Matthew MacCaull will be joining LoT as Commander Steel
Link:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/legends-tomorrow-enlists-izombie-alum-commander-steel - LoT: Marc Guggenheim tweets the JSA logo
(Date: 02 Aug 2016)
Brandon Routh recently revealed that this version of the JSA will hail from the 1940s, something which actually ties into their comic book history and Guggenhiem gave us our first look at the logo!
Link:http://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/legends_of_tomorrow/check-out-the-justice-society-of-americas-logo-from-a144177 - Supergirl: Set Photos of Superman vs.
Metallo?? (Date: 04 aug 2016)
Set photos show Tyler Hoechlin fighting a villain who looks like Metallo in his human form
Link:http://www.comicbookmovie.com/supergirl/action-packed-supergirl-season-2-set-video-shows-superman-battling-a-a144208 - Supergirl: Calista Flockhart will still be on
Supergirl… but... (Date: xx July 2016)
* One of the biggest unknowns about season two of Supergirl on The CW has been whether or not Calista Flockhart will return as Cat Grant.
* Production has moved from LA to Vancouver and the budget has been slashed,
* We know Kara Danvers will have a new boss when the show returns.
* Deadline however has confirmed that Flockhart will be back in a "reduced capacity." Instead of a being a series regular, the actress will be a recurring guest star in season two.
Link:http://www.comicbookmovie.com/supergirl/calista-flockhart-will-return-as-cat-grant-for-supergirl-season-2-in-a-a144120
GREEN ARROW COMICS & TOY NEWS
- Green Arrow Issue #4 Drops (Date: 03 Aug 2016)
Writer: Benjamin Percy | Art: Juan Ferreyra
“The Death and Life of Oliver Queen” part four! Black Canary steps through the deadly gates of Inferno, the global super-villain answer to Fort Knox, to discover the truth behind the destruction of Oliver Queen’s life, fortune and reputation. Meanwhile, Seattle’s manhunt for the outlaw Green Arrow takes an exhilarating twist when an old frenemy makes an unexpected return.
Link:https://www.comixology.com/Green-Arrow-2016-4/digital-comic/384554?ref=c2VhcmNoL2luZGV4L2Rlc2t0b3Avc2xpZGVyTGlzdC9pdGVtU2xpZGVy
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NEXT EPISODE
Promo for Next Week: Legends Of Tomorrow - “The Magnificent Eight”
Article:http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/04/08/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-episode-11-the-magnificent-eight-extende/
Video:
https://youtu.be/kcYg_mTXVFE?list=PL6abPzY300GW5bNkU8x5kh2ocfnU8OaCD
Episode: “The Magnificent Eight” [Season 1 Episode 11]
Air Date: Thursday, April 12th, 2016
Summary: The Legends travel back to the Old Wild West and gain the aid of a true legend - a morally ambiguous gunslinger with a penchant for danger named Jonah Hex.
Director: Thor Freudenthal
Writers: Story by Marc Guggenheim & Greg Berlanti, with teleplay by Marc Guggenheim
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4949298/?ref_=tt_ep_nx
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