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Jul 26, 2016

Starling Tribune - Season 4.5 Special Edition – Legends Of Tomorrow Night Of The Hawk (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

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Episode: “Night of the Hawk” [Season 1 Episode 8]

Air Date: March 10th, 2016

Transcript: http://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?f=557&t=25884

IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4877414/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

Director: Joe Dante
38 different directing credits, including movies and tv episodes, going back to the 80’s

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001102/?ref_=ttfc_fc_dr1

Writers: Sarah Nicole Jones
Relative Newcommer - we’ve talked about her before

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5099297/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5

Lot: 3x writer | 3x Producer
Other Writer Credits: 3x Forever | 8x Longmire
...13x Story Editor on Longmire, 10x Exec. Story Editor on Longmire

Cortney Norris
Experienced script coordinator making the move to writer via the CW
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2655560/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6

Lot: 2x writer
Other Writer Credits: 1x Flash
... As script coordinator: 1x Flash | 10x Tomorrow People | 12x Golden Boy | 13x The Finder | 13x Mad Men and others...

Weekly Ratings

Rating: Episode 8 - 2.01 (March 10th, 2016)

Down from the prior week of 2.28…
Arrow was (still) on a break that week (back March 23rd)
The Flash was also still on a break (back March 22nd)
Supergirl was still on a break too! (back the next week on March 14th)

Episode #

Episode Title

Episode Air Date

Rating

Pilot, Part 1

21-Jan-16

3.21

Pilot, Part 2

28-Jan-16

2.89

Blood Ties

4-Feb-16

2.32

White Knights

7-Feb-16

2.39

Fail-Safe

18-Feb-16

2.25

Star City 2046

25-Feb-16

2.47

Marooned

3-Mar-16

2.28

Night of the Hawk

10-Mar-16

2.01

Left Behind

31-Mar-16

1.97

Progeny

7-Apr-16

1.88

The Magnificent Eight

12-Apr-16

1.98

Last Refuge

21-Apr-16

1.78

Leviathan

28-Apr-16

1.86

River of Time

5-May-16

1.63

Destiny

12-May-16

1.89

Legendary

19-May-16

1.85

What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name

- “Night of the Hawk” (Chris start us off)
  - No hidden message again - just Hawkgirl and Hawk monsters
  - More Interpersonal Drama
- Recurring theme of Looking Back at the past through a different lens
  - Race Issues (Ugh, the realtor left a bad taste in my mouth)
  - LGBTQ Issues
  - Sexism Issues
  - The entire episode centers around highlighting the differences, and the pairings exacerbate it (Jax + Cheerleader, Ray + Kendra, Sara + Nurse).
- Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts (SP first then Neil)
  - Bird vampires. Okay
  - Fight at the Asylum with the “not great” CGI hawk monster bird vampires
  - Fight at Lover’s Lane
  - Drag race with a crash that wasn’t a crash
- Time Travel: Share your thoughts (Neil then Chris)
  - 1950s Drag Race. Cars and rock n roll soundtrack set the era
  - Effect of Time Travel increases with the length of each “jaunt.”
    - Why even mention this?
    - I got a superficial American Graffiti kinda feel
  - Rip Hunter
    - FBI Agent with Snart
    - Pick up Jax’s girlfriend to be tended to by Gideon
    - Rip’s accent is awesome, but then he never uses it again
    - How does Rip perform as a captain this week on a scale of 1-10
  - Vandal Savage
    - Finds the meteorite
    - Curtis Knocks
    - Knows Kendra after the dagger is stolen
    - Experiments on Jax with the meteorite
    - Creepy in a sweater vest
  - The Atom - Ray Palmer
    - Moves in with Kendra. Interracial Couple.
    - Where do all of their moving boxes come from?
    - Almost gets caught breaking into Savage’s locked study
    - On again off again relationship with Kendra
    - Ray should totally never go undercover. “Your house looks very… normal”.
  - White Canary - Sara Lance
    - Take a position at the local asylum with Stein as a Doctor
    - Hates being Stein’s nurse
    - Meets another great nurse - Nurse Carlisle
    - Finds Hall H (ComicCon?) And Vandal Savage
    - Helps open a lesbian discussion with the nurse
    - Uses her extendable pool cue to save Nurse Carlisle and subdue Jefferson
  - Hawkgirl - Kendra Saunders
    - Moves in with Ray. Interracial Couple in the 50’s..
    - I don’t get the general concept of the plan with Savage - OF COURSE he’ll recognize her and go after her… and kill her
    - Where do all of their moving boxes come from?
    - Get me champagne!
    - Fights Savage
    - On again off again relationship with Ray
  - Captain Cold - Leonard Snart
    - FBI Agent with Rip
    - Pick up Jax’s girlfriend to be tended to by Gideon
  - Heatwave - Mick Rory
    - Jax brings it up that he’s gone
  - Firestorm - Professor Martin Stein
    - From cool to drool in only one episode.
    - Take a position at the local asylum with Sara as a nurse
    - Enjoys Nurse Sara a bit too much. Get me a coffee? Really?
  - Firestorm - Jefferson Jackson
    - New kid in town
    - Introduces himself to Betty. Confronts the football team BTTF style
    - Is attacked by bird vampires while necking outside the enchantment under the sea dance
    - Jax gets out of the car to talk to the cop. Really? He even knows it’s a bad idea.
    - Where did Jax get money for a new car?
  - Waveriderr/Gideon
    - Leaves without Ray, Kendra and Sara
  - Chronos
    - Takes over the Waverunner

EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS:

Season 1 Episode 8 “Night of the Hawk” (Date: 11 Mar 2016)
Article:http://comicbook.com/2016/03/09/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-things-you-may-have-missed-in-night-of-t/

The Director Joe Dante: not really an easter egg...
James Dean Reference
Pleasantville
Back to the Future References: Jax calls the bully Biff, and references the “Under the Sea” dance
Hall H: Vandal Savage runs his experiments in Hallway H - SDCC reference or H for Hawkman
Curtis Knox: Cool tie-in to Smallville & Vandal Savage
Hawk-Monsters: Occur throughout DC, both in the ZeroHour books and classic Hawkworld storyline
Dukes of Hazzard Reference: Jax calls the cop Boss Hogg
Andy Griffiths Show Reference: Jax calls the town Mayberry

ARROW NEWS:

Wendy Mericle talks Season 5 in TV Guide SDCC issue (Date: 20 July 2016)
* Broken by SpoilerTV.com in pictures of the physical issue
* Russia definitely confirmed for the flashbacks
*Confirmed that Mr. Terrific will get a real backstory this year
* Confirms Diggle is w/ army and Speedy is retired, & VERY open to have Coulton back on the show as Arsenal, schedules permitting
* Season 5 nemesis is someone Ollie unwittingly created in Season 1
* Decision to kill Laurel will make more sense as Season 5 unfolds.
Link: http://www.spoilertv.com/2016/07/arrow-season-5-comic-con-tvguide.html
Link2:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/arrows-season-5-villain-will-be-somebody-oliver-unwittingly-created
Cody Rhodes hits the Salmon Ladder #TeamRhodes (Date: 17 July 2016)
* Cody Rhodes posted a short video to social media training on the Salmon Ladder
* The caption was “I'm the Captain now. . .#StarCityTraining @ARROWwriters @CW_Arrow returns October 5th”
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/07/17/cody-rhodes-shows-off-his-arrow-training-on-the-salmon-ladder/
Is Ollie Recruiting a team of Vigilantes? (Date: 18 July 2016)
* Marc Guggenheim tweeted the script cover from Ep502 Titled “The Recruits”
* Article runs down the addition of Vigilante, Wild Dog, but skips Artemis
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/07/16/is-team-arrow-recruiting-new-members-in-season-5-/
Chris rallying cry of #NoLaurelNoArrow may have been heard. (Date: 20 July 2016)
In a recent interview with TV Guide, Showrunner Marc Guggenheim which implies that Katie Cassidy can’t appear on Legends of Tomorrow because there's still plans for her on Arrow
Link:http://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/arrow/black-canary-cant-appear-on-legends-of-tomorrow-because-arrow-still-a143638

GENERAL DC TV NEWS

The Flash: The Flash score and soundtrack released (Date: xx July 2016)
* composed by Blake Neely (Arrow, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow)
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/07/18/the-flash-season-2-soundtrack-details-announced/
DCTV: Bleeding Cool runs down the “Big Honkin’ Rumors” (Date: 18 July 2016)
A Rundown of all the current rumors that may or may not come out at SDCC:
Kathy/Kate Kane and her alter ego, Batwoman, will appear on Supergirl as a recurring role
2. Barbara Gordon/Oracle will also appear on Supergirl
3. Babs will develop a strong friendship with Kara, Supergirl. The Oracle/Batwoman relationship is being modeled after the original Chuck Dixon Era Birds Of Prey, but with Kathy/Kate as the operative instead of Dinah.
4. Batman himself is still tied to the Gotham deal at Fox, but Fox has been approached to share the character for a fee.
5. John Wesley Shipp will be the third actor who will become a series regular across the whole CW DC Universe, after Wentworth Miller and John Barrowman. He will (obviously) be playing Jay Garrick
6. Matt Ryan could get a similar deal as the network tests the streaming audience of Constantine as well as his appearances on the network this upcoming season.
Link:http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/18/big-honking-san-diego-rumours-for-dc-tv-supergirl-batwoman-oracle-constantine-and-john-wesley-shipp-sdcc-comic-con/
LoT: Marc Guggenheim tweets a table read w/ a Mystery Actor (Date: 16 July 2016)
Marc Guggenheim tweeted out the table read from the season premiere of LoT, and one actor had their face pixelated - new villain? Crossover? Guest star?
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/07/16/marc-guggenheim-teases-new-legends-of-tomorrow-cast-member/
LoT: Justice Society Confirmed for Season 2 by Caity Lotz (Date: 21 July 2016)
It’s official: The Justice Society of America is heading for Legends of Tomorrow. Actress Caity Lotz took to Twitter to confirm the news as she posted a script from Ep202 with the title, “Justice Society of America.”
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/07/21/justice-society-of-america-confirmed-for-legends-of-tomorrow/
Supergirl: Chris Wood cast in mystery role in Supergirl S02 (Date: 20 July 2016)
Chris Wood (Containment, Vampire Diaries and Carrie Diaries) has been cast as a series regular for Supergirl S02 in an undisclosed “Surprise Role”.
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/07/20/chris-wood-cast-as-surprise-dc-comics-character-in-superglrl-sea/
Vixen: Season 2 confirmed as prelude to Laurel’s death (Date: 20 July 2016)
* Vixen (animated) Season two confirmed with Megalyn E.K. going voicework
* Set before Lauren’s death in Arrow Season 4
* Will include cameos by Green Arrow (Stephen Amell), the Flash (Grant Gustin), the Atom (Brandon Routh), Firestorm (Franz Drameh) and Black Canary (Katie Cassidy).
Link:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/cassidys-black-canary-atom-more-will-appear-in-vixen-season-2

GREEN ARROW COMICS & TOY NEWS

Out This Week: Green Arrow #3 (Date: 20 Jul 2016)
* Green Arrow’s enemies learn he is still alive when the Emerald Archer—now Emerald Outlaw—breaks into Queen Industries to learn why his entire world has betrayed him. But the deadly assassin Shado—formerly Oliver’s ally—is dispatched to finish him before he gets too close to the shocking truth behind his fall from grace.
* Written by Benjamin Percy, Pencils, Colours, Inks by Juan Ferreya
Link:https://www.comixology.com/Green-Arrow-2016-3/digital-comic/373640?ref=c2l0ZS9pbmRleC9jb20uY29taXhvbG9neS5kY2NvbWljczMvZGVza3RvcC9zbGlkZXJMaXN0LzEyMjg0

LEGO giving away Ray Palmer ATOM minifig at SDCC (Date: 18July 2016)
* Attendees can wait in line at Pavillion Terrace of the San Diego Convention Center for a chance to win a free Atom minifigure on Thursday, July 21 and Saturday July 23. The giveaway starts at 12:30pm until supplies last.
* Also being given away via the LEGO twitter account
* comes with a microchip stand
Link:http://www.tvinsider.com/article/93265/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-the-atom-lego-group-minifigure-comic-con/
DC Oct. Solicits -- Green Arrow: An Adult Coloring book! (Date: 18 July 2016)
* Break out the green crayons, because the Emerald Archer is here in his own adult coloring book, featuring art by Neal Adams, Mike Grell, Andrea Sorrentino, Cliff Chiang, Jim Lee and others.
* On sale NOVEMBER 30 • 96 pg, B&W, $15.99 US
Link:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/return-of-wally-west-concludes-young-animal-grows-in-dc-comics-full-october-2016-solicits
Kevin Smith’s run on Green Arrow collected graphic novel (Date: 20 July 2016)
* Collects issues #1-15, from Green Arrow Volume 3, released 2001-2002
* Originally two graphic novels: “Quiver” (#1-10) and “Sounds of Violence” (#11-15)
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiver_(comics)
* Green Arrow is back from the dead, leading the Dark Knight to investigate his mysterious return, while a silent killer targets costumed vigilantes

Link:http://www.dccomics.com/graphic-novels/green-arrow-by-kevin-smith?sf31236322=1

SDCC Exclusive Funkos aren’t so exclusive (Date: xx July 2016)
Funko is making their exclusive SDCC POPs and other figurines available through select partners in conjunction with SDCC - Hot Topic is getting the CW figures, including Unmasked Malcolm Merlyn, Gorilla Grodd, and Liv Moore from iZombie!
Link: http://funko.com/blogs/news/shared-sdcc-2016-exclusives

NEXT EPISODE

Promo for Next Week: Legends Of Tomorrow - “Left Behind”

Article:http://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/legends_of_tomorrow/new-extended-promo-for-legends-of-tomorrow-season-1-a131963
Video: https://youtu.be/JhPeJEpU4nw

Episode: “Left Behind” [Season 1 Episode 9]

Air Date: Thursday, March 31st, 2016

Summary: Ray, Sara and Kendra are shocked after they watch the Waverider fly off without them, leaving them stranded in the ‘50s. After waiting months for their teammates to come back, the three realize they must move on with their lives. Ray and Kendra bond as a couple but Sara decides to return to the League of Assassins and Ra’s al Ghul (guest star Matt Nable).

Director: John F. Showalter

Writers: Beth Schwartz & Grainne Godfree

IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4899930/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

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