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The Starling Tribune is a podcast dedicated to the CW's Arrow TV Show and the other DC Comics TV Shows on the CW channel as well as the DC Universe in general. Each week the reporters and their chief editor will get together to discuss the latest episode of the hit CW show Arrow. The Starling Tribune is a proud member of the GonnaGeek Podcast Network found at

Jul 31, 2016

Starling Tribune - Season 4.5 Special Edition – Legends Of Tomorrow Left Behind (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)


The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network


Episode:            “Left Behind” [Season 1 Episode 9]

Air Date:           March 31st, 2016




Director:           John F. Showalter
27 Directing Credits going back to 2005, lots of CW and genre cred


                        LoT: 1x Legends of Tomorrow (Director)
3x Flash | 1x Arrow | 4x The 100 | 1x Supergirl | 16x Supernatural | 1x Constantine | 1x Forever| … Mentalist, Revolution, Sleepy Hollow, Nikita, Alphas … lots more


Writers:             Beth Schwartz
A name we’ve heard pretty recently

                        LoT: 2x writer (Left Behind & Fail Safe) | 2x Consulting Producer (Pilot pt. 1 & 2)
Arrow: 18x writer | 23x Exec. story editor | 2x Story by | 23x Co-producer

                        Grainne Godfree
Writing credits pretty much focused on the CW - I’d consider part of the genre writers pool. Lots of work on the Flash

                        Lot: 2x writer (Left Behind & Failsafe) | 2x Consulting Producer (Pilot pt. 1 & 2)
Flash: 23x Exec. story editor | 8x Story Editor | 5x Writer | 1x Story by


Weekly Ratings



Rating: Episode 9 - 1.97 (March 10th, 2016)

  • Down from the prior week of 2.01 and the first time it dipped below 2… Back after a 2-week Hiatus
  • Arrow: March 30 - Beacon of Hope (Ep 4.17) - 2.34 (Episode w/ Bree Lawson, Queen Bee)
  • The Flash:  March 29 - “Flash Back” (Ep 2.17) - 3.39 (Episode where Barry goes back to confront Eobard Thawne & Time Wraiths are introduced)
  • Supergirl: March 28 - “World’s Finest” Crossover Episode - 7.17 (up from 6.0 the week before)

Episode # Episode Title Episode Air Date Rating
1 Pilot, Part 1 21-Jan-16 3.21
2 Pilot, Part 2 28-Jan-16 2.89
3 Blood Ties 4-Feb-16 2.32
4 White Knights 7-Feb-16 2.39
5 Fail-Safe 18-Feb-16 2.25
6 Star City 2046 25-Feb-16 2.47
7 Marooned 3-Mar-16 2.28
8 Night of the Hawk 10-Mar-16 2.01
9 Left Behind 31-Mar-16 1.97
10 Progeny 7-Apr-16 1.88
11 The Magnificent Eight 12-Apr-16 1.98
12 Last Refuge 21-Apr-16 1.78
13 Leviathan 28-Apr-16 1.86
14 River of Time 5-May-16 1.63
15 Destiny 12-May-16 1.89
16 Legendary 19-May-16 1.85


  • What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
    • “Left Behind” (Chris start us off)
      • No hidden message again
      • Now it plays into Mick left behind, Sara potentially left at the League…
      • Also left behind who they were via timedrift
    • Recurring theme of leaving things behind
      • Leaving behind who you were
      • Conflicted behind who you were made (Kronos, Canary) and Who you really are
  • Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts (SP first then Neil)
    • Gun battle on the bridge of the WaveRider
    • Assassins in Nanda Parbat
      • Training by Sara
      • Storming Nanda Parbat
      • Sara v. Kendra
      • Kronos Battle Royale in Nanda Parbat
  • Time Travel: Share your thoughts (Neil then Chris)
    • Freefall through time
    • Linguistic disorientation (Stein) and can’t hear (Jax)
    • More of 1958 - time transponder
    • Timedrift
      • Loses sense of former identity
      • Explains a lot about 1958 - lost ability to Hulk Out
  • Rip Hunter
    • Demands trial by combat
    • Opportunity to reform Mr. Rory
    • Miracles abound
    • 2147 or die trying
    • You will see that miracles abound on this old time ship”
  • Vandal Savage
    • Not in this one
  • The Atom - Ray Palmer
    • Trapped in 1958
    • Leave Harmony Falls for Hub City
    • Creates a beacon for the team to find them
    • 2 years later is teaching at
    • Teaches Bill’s Gates father
    • Wants to destroy the time beacon
    • Split second from proposing
    • Captured In Nanda Parbat -- cannot believe he is back
  • White Canary - Sara Lance
    • Trapped in 1958
    • Hotwires a car. Leave Harmony Falls for Hub City
    • Misses Netflix
    • Thinks their friends are dead - different perspective as assassin
    • Leaves Hub City
    • Back at the League Of Assassins in Nanda Parbat
    • Captured In Nanda Parbat
    • Fights Kendra in trial by combat (she was served bad coffee)
    • Similar issue personally in Nanda Parbat to Rory with the Time Masters
  • Hawkgirl - Kendra Saunders
    • Trapped in 1958
    • League Of Assassins Trumps Eagle Scouts
    • Leave Harmony Falls for Hub City
    • She made more than $10,000 as a Barista
    • Wants to go back to not dating Ray Palmer
    • Captured In Nanda Parbat
    • Lost ability to Hawk-out
    • Fights Sara in trial by combat
    • Hawks-out in fight
    • Moves into Ray’s room on the WaveRider
  • Captain Cold - Leonard Snart
    • Kidnapped by Chronos
    • Freezes own hand off to escape
  • Heatwave - Mick Rory
    • Strangling rats to survive and lost his mind
  • Firestorm - Professor Martin Stein
    • Captured In Nanda Parbat
  • Firestorm - Jefferson Jackson
    • Captured In Nanda Parbat
    • It’s a long story pal
  • Waverider/Gideon
    • Unplugged - non functional
    • Gives Snart back a regenerated hand
  • Chronos
    • Kidnapped Snart
    • Attacks Nanda Parbat
    • The team captures him
    • Is thrown in the glass brig on the WaveRider
  • Ra’s Al Ghul
    • Talia intro
    • Meditation helped Sara overcome her blood lust - also Ollie-like brainwashing?
    • Let’s everyone go to kill Chronos
    • Non-phased with future
    • Releases Sara - powerful scene
    • Your daughter yet to be born - I’m pretty sure you’ll call her Nyssa



Season 1 Episode 9 “Left Behind” (Date: 31 Mar 2016)

  1. Left Behind: Also the title of an Arrow Episode, also written by Marc Guggenheim
  2. Ra's al Ghul: Matt Nable returns in the role he OWNED in Arrow.
  3. Talia al Ghul: We got a lot of Nyssa, but this is the first DC TV appearance of Talia
  4. Ray looks like Clark Kent: Glasses, buttoned down suit...
  5. The Game of Life: Oops or from the waverider? Stuck in ‘58, game created in ‘60
  6. Hub City: Hub City, where the team found itself in 1958 and Ray ended up setting up a life with Kendra, is in the comics the home of The Question and other DC superheroes imported from Charlton Comics.
  7. Nanda Parbat
  8. Another Reference to the Vanishing Point.
  9. Shadow Record: Document with the League’s roster is similar to the League of Shadows
  10. That threat Mick makes to Snart -- that he's going to start in the far future and travel back in time over and over again forcing Snart to watch him murder Snart's sister each day -- is something similar to what happened in The Kingdom, Mark Waid's follow-up to Kingdom Come, in which the villain Gog did that to Superman.
  11. Hawking-out: Similar to Hulking Out?
  12. Ray’s comment about being “back Here”: He was in the same cell in Arrow, but in the future
  13. General cool comment about the ties to Sara Lance and Canary in Arrow




  1. Arrow Returning to Street-level Crime  (Date: 27 July 2016)
    * Stephen Amell said: (Director) "Bam Bam gets it and gets the theme of the show, and it feels like it’s a street-level crime-fighting show and it’s about saving Star City and cleaning it up, which is what the show is.  I think the best version of the show is when we focus on that."  
    * Wendy Mericle added: "We’re going back to season 1. We’re going to have really badass monsters.  We’re going back to the crime and the city. When we come back to the city, ...there is a lot of street crime and the mobsters have really taken over the city
  2. Amell on “Olicity” and a New Team v. the Old Team in Season 5  (Date: 27 July 2016)
    "Oliver's most important relationship in the entire show is his relationship with Star City, and his objective to make it better than what it was and fulfill what his father asked him to do.  So Oliver and Felicity are very much team members at this point. She thinks that there should be a new team at the moment, and Oliver would like the old team to return.
  3. SDCC: Arrival of the Ragman!!  (Date: 24 July 2016)
    * The character, played by "Blindspot" alum Joe Dinicol, will debut in the second episode as Rory Regan who, fresh from a personal tragedy, hopes to discover answers in Star City.
    * First previewed in the Season 5 SDCC Sizzle Reel
  4. Katie Cassidy gets a contract to star across all CW shows  (Date: 23 July 2016)
    * struck a deal with The CW that makes her a series regular across all of the network's superhero shows.
    * During the "Arrow" SDCC panel, EP Wendy Mericle announced Cassidy will add "The Flash" and "Legends of Tomorrow" to her resume, following John Barrowman and Wentworth Miller.
  5. SDCC: We are definitely getting Mr. Terrific in costume (Date: 26 July 2016)
    Funny enough, he's actually already worn a jacket on the show with "Fairplay" on it, but "nobody noticed it."




  1. Supergirl: Marc Guggenheim shares details on the Crossover (Date: 28 July 2016)
    Stopping short of calling it a full-on Supergirl crossover, Guggenheim confirmed the Girl of Steel will be stopping by all three of CW's other DC shows. "It’s an external threat from outside the shows that will involve Supergirl coming over to "The Flash," then "Arrow" then "Legends of Tomorrow."
  2. Supergirl: New Superman costume unveiled and compared (Date: 28 Jul 2016)
    *The design aesthetics are very different. Cavill's suit is more "alien skin". Hoechlin's suit is more of a suit
    * Hoechlin's costume opts for the red "utility belt" design, pulled from the New 52 Comic book reboot of Superman (more on that later). Cavill's costume famously skipped over having a pronounced belt or red underwear
    * The logos on the costume are very different: Cavill's Kryptonian "hope" insignia was made with the same "alien" aesthetic as the rest of his costume, while Hoechlin's insignia is much more of the classic Dan Jurgens design.
    * The cape clasps are very different: Cavill's, again, runs seamlessly into his shoulders, like a hair extension, while Hoechlin clearly has clasps to hold his cape in place. Cavill's cape is a CGI creation; Hoechlin's is clearly leather (or some sort of similar material).
  3. Flash: Grant Gustin wants Joss Whedon to guest direct Flash (Date: 27 July 2016)
    * Season two saw fan favorite director Kevin Smith take over for an episode.
    * "Yeah actually," said Gustin, "I met Joss Whedon last night. Yeah, that'd be really cool. He was a really nice guy and he loves the show. He's seen every episode of the show."
  4. Flash: SDCC Season 3 Trailer… Flashpoint!  (Date: xx July 2016)
    Flashpoint Trailer is full of Wibbly Wobbly “Barry-screwed-with-the-timeline” goodness
  5. Vixen: Season Two Trailer drops at SDCC  (Date: 24 July 2016)
    *Starring Megalyn EK, "Vixen" will return to CW Seed for a second season in the fall.
    * The clip, debuting at SDCC, features appearances by the Flash and Firestorm, as the three heroes team to take down the Weather Wizard.
  6. Other: Colton Hayes to appear on Fox’s Scream Queens  (Date: 22 July 2016)
    * “Arrow” alum Colton Haynes will guest star in the upcoming second season of the Fox horror-comedy “Scream Queens.”
    * The setting of the Ryan Murphy series will shift from fictional Wallace University to a hospital owned by Jamie Lee Curtis’ Cathy Munsch and the Chanels (once again played by Emma Roberts, Billie Lourd and Abigail Breslin). John Stamos and Taylor Lautner will play doctors.





Neil ‏@Neilisntwitty  Jul 21

On @StarlingTribune tonite @TheChrisFerrell said the monsters on @TheCW_Legends Night of the Hawk were #Vawks Agree?


100%#Vawks Forever dude!!

000%#Vawks? No way!




Cajun Shaun ‏@Cajun_Shaun  Jul 23

@StarlingTribune this looks better than Batman V. Superman!



Cajun Shaun ‏@Cajun_Shaun  Jul 26





Roxxi ‏@whoiamthisisme  Jul 27

Having just fallen in love with @TheCW_Legends Its time to catch up with LoT eps @StarlingTribune (although I still miss @VoicesODefiance!)




Cajun Shaun ‏@Cajun_Shaun  19h19 hours ago





Cajun Shaun ‏@Cajun_Shaun  17h17 hours ago

@StarlingTribune ‘Justice League Dark’ Trailer: Matt Ryan Returns as Constantine for DC’s Animated Movie




Promo for Next Week: Legends Of Tomorrow - “Progeny”



Episode:            “Progeny” [Season 1 Episode 10]

Air Date:           Thursday, April 7th, 2016

Summary:         The team is divided over killing a 14-year-old boy who will grow to be a powerful ally for Savage.

Director:           David Geddes

Writers: Phil Klemmer & Marc Guggenheim



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