Starling Tribune - Season 6 Edition – Crisis On Earth-X (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) ST179

Dec 5, 2017

Starling Tribune - Season 6 Edition – Crisis On Earth-X (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) ST179

 

The Official Arrow and Green Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network Covering DC Comics and CW Based DC Comic TV Shows

 

Title: Crisis on Earth-X 4-hour crossover event 

Air Date: Monday and Tuesday, November 27 and 28, 2017 

 

Directors: Part 1: Larry Teng (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1270350/?ref_=tt_ov_dr)  

Part 2: James Bamford (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051466/?ref_=tt_ov_dr) 

Part 3: Dermott Downs (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0236173/?ref_=tt_ov_dr) 

Part 4: Gregory Smith (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0808376/?ref_=tt_ov_dr)  

 

Writers: Story by: Marc Guggenheim and Andrew Kreisberg (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr7) (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1132610/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr8)  

Part 1 teleplay: Robert Rovner and Jessica Queller (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0746362/ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6)  

(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0703182/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr7) 

Part 2 teleplay: Wendy Mericle and Ben Sokolowski (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1355890/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4) (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2408940/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5) 

Part 3 teleplay: Todd Helbing (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1054609/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4) 

Part 4 teleplay: Phil Klemmer and Keto Shimizu (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0459237/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5) (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2582956/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6)  

 

Promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUi0_0yijsE  

 

Full recap of “Crisis on Earth-X” with spoilers (Date: 27 Nov and 28 Nov 2017) 

Recap: http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/crisis-on-earth-x-arrowverse-crossover-parts-1-2-recap-arrow-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-1202623865/ and http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/crisis-on-earth-x-crossover-arrow-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-arrowverse-1202624915/  

 

Arrow

 

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Fallout 12-Oct-17 1.52

02 Tribute 19-Oct-17 1.51

03 Next Of Kin 26-Oct-17 1.34

04 Reversal 2-Nov-17 1.33

05 Deathstroke Returns 9-Nov-17 1.29

06 Promises Kept 16-Nov-17 1.28

07 Thanksgiving 23-Nov-17 1.11

08 Crisis On Earth-X Part 2 27-Nov-17 2.54

 

Legends Of Tomorrow

 

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Aruba-Con 10-Oct-17 1.71

02 Freakshow 17-Oct-17 1.58

03 Zuri 24-Oct-17 1.43

04 Phone Home 31-Oct-17 1.38

05 Return Of The Mack 7-Nov-17 1.52

06 Helen Hunt 14-Nov-17 1.53

07 Welcome To The Jungle 21-Nov-17 1.49

08 Crisis On Earth-X Part 4 28-Nov-17 2.80

 

Supergirl

 

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Girl Of Steel 9-Oct-17 1.87

02 Triggers 16-Oct-17 1.76

03 Far From The Tree 23-Oct-17 1.76

04 The Faithful 30-Oct-17 1.82

05 Damage 6-Nov-17 1.87

06 Midvale 13-Nov-17 1.89

07 Wake Up 20-Nov-17 1.92

08 Crisis On Earth-X Part 1 27-Nov-17 2.65

 

THE FLASH

 

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Flash Reborn 10-Oct-17 2.84

02 Mixed Signals 17-Oct-17 2.54

03 Luck Be A Lady 24-Oct-17 2.62

04 Elongated Journey Into Night 31-Oct-17 1.99

05 Girls Night Out 7-Nov-17 2.38

06 When Harry Met Harry 14-Nov-17 2.46

07 Therefore I Am21-Nov-17 2.20

08 Crisis On Earth-X Part 3 28-Nov-17 2.82

 

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

• What was the overall theme? What was the link to the episode’s name? 
• Nazis from Earth-X invade 
• Earth-X is the 53rdEarth 
• People on Earth-X fighting for change, for freedom, for love 
• Characters
• Oliver Queen and Felicity Smoak  
• Oliver breaking promise to William – being Green Arrow 
• Oliver asks Felicity to marry him at the rehearsal dinner 
• Felicity says no; she likes their life and doesn't want to change things 
• Oliver tries to reason with Prometheus X – Tommy Merlyn!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
• Dark Oliver is Führer on Earth-X; Ollie pretends to be him, but blows cover when he won't kill Earth-X Felicity 
• Felicity stands up to Dark Ollie; Ollie has Overgirl 
• Felicity feels guilty for turning Oliver down before he gets captured; changes stance, asks Ollie to marry her – no William, no prenup  
• WEDDING. GUESTS. EVER. 
• Barry Allen and Iris West 
• Have very inconsiderate friends – serious faux pas to not RSVP in a timely manner 
• Barry: I got the girl; has Kara sing proposal song; tears in eyes when sees Iris walk down aisle 
• Wedding interrupted by Nazis from Earth-X 
• Will they ever be rid of Thawne? 
• Oliver – cherish each other, always find each other 
• Barry – we should've eloped 
• Barry doesn't kill Thawne 
• Barry brings Diggle to Central City; Diggle vomits 
• Barry – sweetest vows ever, "You’re my home" 
• Iris – anything is possible with you by my side, Barry 
• Iris West and Felicity Smoak 
• Conversation about why Felicity doesn't want to marry Oliver 
• Work together to free those trapped in pipeline; Die Hard reference – go through the biggest air shafts ever 
• Beat up two Nazis 
• Felicity signals the rest of the Legends 
• Felicity shuts off power 
• Beat up more Nazis, try to save Kara 
• Felicity doesn't give in to Thawne until Kara tells her to 
• Work together to take down Nazi Waverider 
• Martin Stein and Jefferson Jackson 
• Cisco and Well perfect cure for Firestorm – both will no longer have powers 
• Martin happy to be able to go back home 
• Martin offers to make Jax The Spectacular Sticky Man 
• Jax upset – he sees Martin as the father he didn't have 
• Martin admits Jax is like a son to him 
• Kick some ass as Firestorm 
• Manuel override at platform; they have to split up to make the override thing work 
• Stein gets shot while going to turn on override, makes way to switch (Why aren't the others more active during this? More Snart, more Ollie?) 
• Gideon can't save Stein; Jax's bond with Stein keeping Stein alive 
• Stein knows he's dying, knows he's killing Jax; tells Jax to give him Firestorm cure; let me die, so you can live 
• Stein – you have your whole life ahead of you, let me go 
• Jax stays with Stein till the end; "I hope your life is long and full of love" 
• Jax has to tell Stein's family 
• "For the Professor" 
• Funeral 
• Sara Lance and Alex Danvers 
• Alex still not over Maggie, gets drunk with Sara 
• Alex and Sara have a one-night stand; Alex freaks out 
• Alex second guessing breaking up with Maggie; Sara tells her to trust her instincts 
• At church, rip dresses, fight Nazis, capture Prometheus X 
• Sara bi on every Earth 
• Sara talks Alex after going after Nazis alone; Sara tells Alex about losing Laural  
• Sara – you're on my team, Danvers 
• Kara and Alex 
• Both lamenting over being single 
• Alex – gain break-up weight; Kara – let's go to wedding 
• Kara – still thinks she's going to be alone 
• Alex works to convince General Winn and others to give them time to go back to their Earth to save Kara 
• Dark Ollie and Overgirl 
• Take advantage of Kara being on Earth 1 – no Superman to interfere  
• Overgirl needs a new heart – Kara's is to be the donor 
• Married 
• Overgirl dying from too much radiation; going to go supernova, Kara gets her in orbit 
• Dark Ollie killed by Oliver 
• Dark Ollie, Overgirl and Thawne 
• Thawne upset they attacked too soon 
• Thawne worried they will not follow plan – conquer Earth first, save Overgirl second 
• Thawne wears Wells's face for Barry –  our Thawne 
• Infighting – Dark Oliver needs to be 10% less brooding 
• Need a prism 
• Nazi Waverider arrives 
• Thawne gets everyone to Nazi Waverider, which is voiced by Susanna Thompson  
• Snart and The Ray 
• The Ray in a concentration camp 
• Snart frees The Ray and the team 
• Snart and The Ray in love, but Snart hits on Sara; this Snart bi? 
• Snart always has a plan 
• Snart - I may be sentimental, but the Earth 1 heroes are willing to risk everything like I would for you – we need to help them 
• Convince General Winn to help heroes get home 
• Snart hugs Barry 
• Snart decides to stay on Earth 1 
• Cisco sends The Ray back to Earth-X 
• Highlight character: Mick Rory
• Weddings are the worst 
• Only there for the free beer and food 
• Stein's daughter doesn't want him to roam the house naked; wears robe; drinks all the milk 
• Sits on bride's side because tried to kill the groom twice 
• Falls asleep during ceremony 
• Likes Killer Frost; tries to scare Caitlin  
• Uses flash thing to keep secret identities secret 
• Best wedding ever! 
• "You people have breaches, but no mustard" - always eating; gets German mustard from Caitlin 
• "I knew I could count on you, pretty. Did you bring beers?" - Getting rescued by Nate from pipeline 
• Seeing Snart - ghost is back 
• "I'm dead on Planet Nazi" Sick he died saving "pigs" 
• Funeral - "allergies" 
• Calls Sara "boss" 
• Asks Sara if she "hit that" when he sees her and Alex 
• Favorite fight or aspect of crossover
• SP - 
• Opening fights montage was well done intro to the cross over 
• Arrow Episode Simultaneous Danville Shipping Depot & STAR Labs fight 
• Nice Arrow van that mowed down Ravager in the final fight 
• Girl at the wedding. Jessica Parker Kennedy as “Caterer”  
• Supergirl sings the wedding march 
• William Katt - Minister (Greatest American Hero) 
• Chris - The wedding fight is a great team up fight that gave everyone a chance to shine.  JL should take notes. 
• Michelle – Girl Power 
• Caitlin Snow: helps with cure for Firestorm and treatment of Stein; Killer Frost important in fight, does her slide on ice during big fight; takes Amaya and Zari to Nazi Waverider & three kick Nazi butt  
• Iris/Felicity team up 
• Supergirl – ice breath, beats up Overgirl 
• Smart ladies 
• Alex with her gun and moves; Sara's skills - roundhouse kick to Nazi 
• What didn't like
• SP-  
• Different episode feel for all four (different directors) 
• Lack of B team characters in own timeslots 
• Why did Citizen Cold Stay On Earth 1? 
• Weddings not on either Arrow or Flash "episode"/part. 
• Where did Nazi General Lantz go? 
• Aren’t Oliver and Nyssa still married? 
• Chris -  
• Wally got screwed over on his appearance.  Disappears on Flash for part of the season and then gets to play babysitter for Joe the rest of the crossover. Booo.  Send Wally to Legends! 
• Ollie not doing great on the whole parent thing.  Back to being GA and gets married without even talking to his son about it first. 
• Michelle – Too close to home; some actually want an Earth-X today: Aryan perfection, getting rid of the weak, camps 
• Favorite geek references / call outs / Easter eggs
• SP - 
• Man In The High Castle "Oliver In The high Castle" Iris<->Felicity 
• Terminator - When Metello blows up 
• Ghostbuster “There is no God” [Only Zuul] Dark Archer to Harry 
• The Great Escape (Steve McQueen bouncing ball in the hole) Harry in the Star Labs Prison 
• Die Hard "Let's Go McClaine" Iris<->Felicity 
• Chris - 
• Supergirl said the line!  Anytime you get to channel Christopher Reeve is a winner in my book. 
• “You need to fly her up. Up! And away! Now!” 
• Michelle –  
• Supergirl beats up a Dominator ("These guys are so last year") 
• The Ray – he will have his own CW Seed animated show, voiced by the actor playing him 
• Supergirl to Overgirl - "General, would you care to step outside?" - direct quote from Superman 2 
• Any favorite quotes not mentioned yet?
• SP - 
• “Oh man. I wish I could sleep fly” ~Felicity Part 1 
• “Ah, professor. Your...ahhhh...daughter insisted I not walk around your house naked so I found one of your dresses. You’re out of milk.” ~Mick Rory Part 1 
• “Are you here for the bride or the groom?” “Well considering I’ve tried to kill the groom a couple of times it’s probably best I ...ahhhh … sit on the bride’s side.” Mick Rory Part 1 
• “Best Wedding Ever!!!” Mick Rory Part 1 
• “Well, Good thing we have a metric ton of smart people in this building. … And Rory. Let’s get to work on finding our new friends from Earth X.” ~Barry Allen Part Two 
• “Ok. We’re all a little emotional. Here’s what I suggest. I will stop vibrating my hand. YOU stop breaking my wrist. And YOU be 10% less brooding.” Eobard Thawne, Part 2 
• “Well, punching Nazis! That was definitely as satisfying as I imagined it would be.” Alex, Part 2 
• “Just a quick reminder. Super speed. I don’t have it!” ~Oliver Part 2.
• “Is that a Kryptonite Arrow? Why Do you have a Kryptonite Arrow?” ~Supergirl “In case an evil YOU ever showed up!” ~Oliver Part 2 
• “Well I once caught a deranged serial killer off his face cream. So….no joke.” ~Felicity Part 2 
• “Mustard. You people have breaches but no mustard?” ~Mick Rory Part 2 
• “I’m saving Nazi you for you.” ~Barry to Oliver Part 2 
• “I thought we were going to die” ~Iris “If I had a dime for every time I thought that I...I’d have $2.40. I really thought I’d have more than that.” ~Felicity Part 2 
• “Take that you Nazi mother...whoa!” ~Felicity Part 3 
• “Come with me if you want to live” ~Iris to Kara Part 3 
• “It is the strongs duty to protect the weak” ~Oliver to Smoak Part 3  
• “Good. That’ll give me time to talk to...myself.” ~Overgirl Part 3 
• “I hate Fire.” ~Leo Part 3 
• “Look, fingerless gloves….” ~Sara to General Schott Part 3 
• “It was Oliver In The High Castle” ~Felicity Part 2 
• “I died trying to save pigs? I’m gonna be sick” ~Mick Part 4 
• “You need to fly her up, up, up. And Away. Right now” ~Harry Part 4 
• “Who needs an Army when you’ve got Legends” Nate Part 4 
• “Oliver got the girl I got a life of adventure on a time-traveling spaceship.” ~Ray Part 4 
• “I just love a good pop culture reference in a moment of ‘Crisis’” ~Cisco Part 4 
• “Cut the chatter Red 2, Fly the ship.” ~Harry Part 4 
• Chris - 
• “His wife? Gross! … No offense.” - Kara about being married to Ollie in Earth X 
• “The only thing we know about each other is what we look like with clothes off. Beautiful, by the way.” - Sara about Alex 
• “You’re not my partner. You’re a gangbanger.” “I think you mean doppelgänger.” - Leo and Mick 
• Michelle -  
• "Why is it so bright here? Don't they have clouds on this Earth?" (Alex to Kara after one-night stand) 
• Oliver arrives last - "Just a quick reminder, super speed – I don't have it."  
• Rate the crossover
• SP - F. My 8 year old nephew could have produced a better product. 
• Chris - Could be used to teach a lesson on how to cross over so many characters.  I think they pulled off the team up better than Justice League because people were more invested in this than DCEU. 
• Michelle – Awesome; focused on core characters, only brought in others for big fight 

 

NEXT EPISODE

 

Link to Promo: (Date: 29 Nov 2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7okT1lJ2TL4  

 

Episode: “Irreconcilable Differences” [Season 6 Episode 9] 

Air Date: Thursday, December 7 (mid-season finale) 

Summary: Black Siren and Cayden James kidnap Quentin to get their hands on a weapon of mass destruction. 

Director: Laura Belsey 

Writers: Beth Schwartz and Sarah Tarkoff 

 

IMDB link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6493670/?ref_=tt_eps_cu_n  

  

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