Feb 20, 2017
Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – Spectre Of The Gun (A CW
Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) #140
The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network
Episode:
“Spectre of the Gun” [Season 5 Episode 13]
Air Date:
Wednesday, February 15, 2017
Director: Kristin Windell
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0934663/?ref_=ttfc_fc_dr1
1x Arrow | editor: 38x Arrow, 10x Blindspot
Writer: Marc
Guggenheim
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4
Executive producer: Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow | writer: 12x
Arrow | 7x Legends
Promo:
http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/02/09/arrow-season-5-episode-13-spectre-of-the-gun-photos-and-trailer/
Weekly Ratings
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date /
Rating
Arrow
01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89
02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94
03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79
04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87
05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61
06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95
07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86
08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55
09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94
10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17 1.68
11 Second Chances 1-Feb-17 1.91
12 Bratva 8-Feb-17 1.61
13 Spectre Of The Gun 15-Feb-17 1.66
14 The Sin-Eater 22-Feb-17
15 Fighting Fire with Fire 1-Mar-17
16 Checkmate TBD
17 Kapot TBD
Legends Of Tomorrow
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date /
Rating
01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01
02 Justice Society of America 20-Oct-2016 2.83
03 Shogun 27-Oct-2016 2.71
04 Abominations 3-Nov-2016 1.75
05 Compromised 10-Nov-2016 1.77
06 Outlaw Country 17-Nov-2016 1.85
07 Invasion 1-Dec-2016 3.39
08 The Chicago Way 8-Dec-2016 2.00
09 Raiders Of The Lost Art 24-Jan-2016 1.74
10 The Legion Of Doom 31-Jan-2017 1.78
11 Turncoat 7-Feb-17 1.89
Supergirl
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date /
Rating
01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06
02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66
03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65
04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22
05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47
06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35
07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61
08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53
09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17 2.65
10 We Can Be Heroes 30-Jan-17 2.35
11 The Martian Chronicles 6-Feb-17 2.4
12 Luthors 13-Feb-17 2.52
THE FLASH
Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date /
Rating
01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17
02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80
03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67
04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80
05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77
06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01
07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95
08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15
09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14
10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17 2.68
11 Dead Or Alive 31-Jan-17 3.06
12 Untouchable 7-Feb-17 2.94
Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters
- What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link
to the ep. name
- Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
- Guns, guns, and more guns
- Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
- Rene’s backstory
- Had a wife a daughter
- Kept gun in home in a safe; would take it to the Glades, but
that broke the house rule
- Wife used drugs
- After going to game with daughter, wife’s dealer has gun to her
head, owes him money
- Rene talks his way to the safe, daughter spooks guy, Rene
fires, guy falls, his gun goes off, killing wife
- Child in foster care; decides to become Wild Dog after seeing
footage of Green Arrow killing Darhk
- Ollie:
- Has to step up as Mayor
- “Thoughts and prayers” press conference fail
- Works with Councilwoman and Rene to draft gun ordinance
- Pulls a Batman move - hangs Bertinelli upside down and
threatens
- Vigilante shows up and kills Bertinelli; Ollie calls him a
criminal and a killer
- Are we adding to the cycle of violence?
- Diggle
- Roughs up lowlifes for intel
- Tells Dinah that wanting a normal life is good, to take small
steps
- Thea
- Vomits a little at the thought of Ollie with Susan
Williams
- Makes Ollie step up as Mayor
- Felicity
- Keeps on working while others debate around her
- Using Pandora to find Claybourne’s mistress
- Talking about things doesn’t help unless it has a purpose and
meaning; debating is not enough
- Quentin Lance
- Cops want fewer people have guns
- Makes Ollie step up as Mayor
- Feels bad not realizing guy was the shooter before it
began
- Curtis
- Guns need to regulated for safety reasons
- Need to talk about things in a healthy way to come up with
solutions
- Finds out where Rene’s daughter is
- Rene / Wild Dog
- Dinah Drake / Black Canary
- Thinks it’s okay for civilians to have guns for protection
- Not sure how to have a normal life after being on a mission of
vengeance for three years
- Gets a studio apartment (with a garden!) and applies to
SCPD
- Artemis
- Ragman
- A. Adrian Chase
- Shot in shoulder during attack on City Hall
- Wants Ollie to use personal relationship with Susan to get her
to back off about Malone
- Susan Williams
- Bratva
- Prometheus
- New developments:
- The search for Claybourne’s mistress has been going on for 3
months; narrowed to Illinois; Felicity is impressed by her ability
to hide
- Known facts:
- 30 years old?
- Ollie’s past and that he is Arrow; knows about The List
- How to fight like Ollie; studied with person Ollie did while in
Russia
- Has a tolerance to Diazepam (Valium); can shake off getting
sedated
- Where and how to get Ollie’s old arrows to make his own
- Team Flash - how they keep metas at Star Labs; Black Siren
- Sara, the Legends, the Waverider, time travel, and parallel
worlds
- Faked Lyla’s voice to lure Diggle
- Michelle’s List O’Suspects: (I’m keeping this active until the
mask comes off)
- Tommy Merlyn
- Susan Williams
(investigating Ollie)
- Robert Queen - too old?
- Claybourne’s son
- Adrian Chase (but more likely to become Vigilante)
- Helena Bertinelli
- Isabel Rochev
- Mckenna Hall
- Shado
- Talia al Ghul
- Roy - too young?
- Some guy from the Bratva
- Some new character
- Lingering Questions / Issues
- Where does Ollie live?
- Third mention of Bertinelli - now head of family dead - will we
see Helena?
ARROW NEWS:
- Spoiler Room: Scoop on The Flash, Once Upon a Time, Supergirl,
and more (Date: 10 Feb 2017)
Will Oliver
find out what’s really going on with Felicity on Arrow soon?
—
Not for several episodes, but you may be surprised by his reaction.
“He knows that she’s into something, and he knows that she doesn’t
want to tell him about it, so he’s dealing with that in his own
way,” Stephen Amell tells me. “For Felicity, it’s not something
that she and Oliver discuss until they have what is actually an
adult conversation about it in [a future episode].”
Did you get any Flash scoop on Killer Frost?
—
When asked how Cisco would try to help Caitlin quell her Killer
Frost tendencies, Carlos Valdes dropped a truth bomb: “Caitlin has
some secrets of her own that are going to come to light and are
going to change not just the dynamic of the team, but also her own
feelings about her dynamic within the team,” he says. “It all comes
to a head.” Make of that what you will.
Link:http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/10/spoiler-room-flash-once-upon-time-arrow/
- Vigilante Attacks Oliver Queen in "Fighting Fire With Fire"
(Date: 10 Feb 2017)
He's gone after Team Arrow before -- but always in the name of his
own ultra-violent code of justice. So why is Vigilante trying to
kill Mayor Oliver Queen? Fans will find out on March 1, when the DC
antihero returns to menace city hall. Synopsis: Oliver (Stephen
Amell) faces his biggest challenge yet as mayor. Felicity (Emily
Bett Rickards) continues down her dark path with Helix. After
Vigilante attacks Oliver while he’s acting as the mayor, Diggle
(David Ramsey) leads the team in a mission to stop Vigilante once
and for all.
Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/02/11/vigilante-attacks-oliver-queen-in-fighting-fire-with-fire/
- Arrow Showrunners On Why They Wanted To Do A Gun Violence
Episode (Date: 12 Feb 2017)
"Well, we went into season 5 wanting to do an episode about an
issue," Guggenheim said during a screening of the episode. "I'm
old, so what does this mean? It means that I grew up on St.
Elsewhere and Picket Fences and LA Law. I grew up in a time where
it was commonplace, like literally every week, for a one-hour drama
to tackle the issues of the day. Somewhere along the line we got
away from that -- like, the whole industry got away from that. And
now you've got like Blackish and Carmichael Show, but as far as
network dramas are concerned? Really not tackling current events,
current issues. So we went into season 5 with the desire to. It's
the fifth season; we've hopefully earned the freedom to, in 23
episodes of television, you can have 22 episodes of candy and one
episode of vegetables. We sort of felt that gun violence felt like
the right topic, because of its topicality but also because of the
level of gun violence that's on Arrow. We could have done an
episode on abortion, but that's not really where the show lives, so
gun violence sort of felt like the right thing to tackle."
Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/02/13/arrow-showrunners-on-why-they-wanted-to-do-a-gun-violence-episod/
- Arrow Boss Explains Thea's Absence, Obstacle Facing Laurel's
Next Return (Date: 14 Feb 2017)
“Everyone’s like, ‘Where’s Thea? Where’s Thea?’ Willa’s [contracted
for] 14 out of 23 episodes this year,” Guggenheim revealed. “She’s
not in all 23. That’s not her contract. We’ve had to write around
that.” Contractual matters also may prove a hurdle in bringing
Katie Cassidy back for another encore as one Laurel or another,
even though Cassidy (as reported over the summer) entered the
season with one of those #DCTV-wide deals that theoretically would
allow her to pop up on Arrow or any of its many offspring.
“We have an idea for how to see [Katie] again, but we haven’t made
a deal with her,” Guggenheim shared. “She’s not a series regular
anymore, so we have to make a contract with her, and she’s got to
be available. We haven’t had those conversations. But… we know
exactly what we do want to do.
Link:http://tvline.com/2017/02/13/arrow-season-5-katie-cassidy-contract-status-willa-holland/
- Will Arrow Bring Back Suicide Squad Characters? Here's What
David Ramsey Says (Date: 13 Feb 2017)
David Ramsey recently spoke with CinemaBlend about
all things John Diggle, and he told me this about Digg's future
with the Suicide Squad on Arrow: “I can say that we have all the
elements. Part of what John Diggle brings to the team is his
relationship with ARGUS through his wife Lyla. We're waiting to see
how that plays itself out. Diggle was freed last week, and Oliver
said to him 'You can go home and hug your wife and son.' So that's
a real viable part of Diggle that we have always seen on camera,
but it would be nice to see more because he's married to the leader
of the Suicide Squad. What does that play out? How does that look?
What are those conversations like? We have all the elements of
it... I think we have the makings of it. ARGUS is a real viable
part of our whole universe, of Legends, Flash, and Arrow. And
Diggle just so happens to be married to the leader of ARGUS, so
it's right there ready for the picking.”
Link:http://www.cinemablend.com/television/1624570/will-arrow-bring-back-suicide-squad-characters-heres-what-david-ramsey-says
- Arrow EPs Tease Thea's Role Going Forward in Season 5
(Date: 15 Feb 2017)
"She’s headed in a direction that’s very similar to where her
mother was before she was killed in Season 2. We’re excited about
it." revealed Wendy Mericle. "I’m actually really excited about her
storyline because we’re taking her to a place where she’s been
dealing with all of these issues the same way Oliver has, with her
bloodlust and with her other elements of her past. And this
season’s going to find her in a similar place but for very
different reasons. There’s gonna be a great scene coming up between
Oliver and Thea that’s one of my favorites on the show."
Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/02/16/arrow-thea-queen-willa-holland-season-five/
- Arrow EP Teases Prometheus's Next Move (Date: 15 Feb
2017)
According to one of the show's executive producers, however, that
is all about to change with next week's episode, entitled 'The
Sin-Eater'. Marc Guggenheim recently revealed that not only will
the villain appear in the February 22nd episode, but his past
actions will start to connect. Guggenheim wants fans to keep an eye
out for the conclusion of the episode, as it will particularly
reveal parts of the villain's motive. "The episode ends, I think,
with sort of the next key move in Prometheus’ grand plan."
Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/02/16/arrow-marc-guggenheim-prometheus/
- Arrow EP: Oliver Will Make Star City Better -- As Mayor
(Date: 15 Feb 2017)
"One of the things we went into season five with the mindset of is
Oliver’s mayor, so without it turning into The West Wing, how are
we going to find ways to have Oliver be active as mayor, and to
everyone’s surprise, be a good mayor, end up being a good mayor,"
explained executive producer Marc Guggenheim during a screening of
tonight's episode, "Spectre of the Gun." "And you’ll start to see,
actually – and this is true in next week’s episode, in episode 14 –
Thea’s going to make a good case to Oliver, of all people, for all
the things he’s accomplished as mayor, and you start to see like,
oh wait, in the first 13 episodes, he actually kind of did some
stuff. And he’s not done yet. Obviously, the season’s not done yet.
But we definitely went into the season with the goal of showing
that Oliver is actually much better at this job than you might
expect."
Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/02/15/arrow-ep-oliver-will-make-star-city-better--as-mayor/
- Arrow: Marc Guggenheim On What Makes Oliver Different From his
Villains (Date: 15 Feb 2017)
This season on Arrow, Ollie has been even more affected by that
conundrum. He constantly finds himself toe-ing the line between
what's right and wrong. According to Marc Guggenheim, Oliver is
going to continue that struggle throughout this season. Not only
will the rest of this season see Oliver explore that struggle, but
the show will also explore what that means for Arrow's entire
world. "One of the things we are doing in the back half of Season 5
is really getting underneath that and what that means, not just in
terms of morality but in terms of psychology -- specifically
Oliver’s psychology. There’s things about Oliver’s killing that you
have yet to learn."
Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/02/16/arrow-marc-guggenheim-oliver-and-villains/
- The New Black Canary Gets A Mask In These New Images From Next
Week's ARROW (Date: 16 Feb 2017)
With Laurel Lance unlikely to return at any point in the near
future, Dinah Drake looks set to take over the Black Canary mantle
in Arrow. However, The CW series is taking a slow burn approach to
that, but she finally gets a mask in these new images.
Link:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/arrow/the-new-black-canary-gets-a-mask-in-these-new-images-from-next-weeks-a149012
GENERAL DC TV NEWS
- THE FLASH SET PHOTOS HINT AT MUSICAL’S 1940s SETTING (Date:
11 Feb 2017)
The latest photos from the British Columbia set of “The Flash”
suggest the musical crossover with “Supergirl” may partly take
place during the 1940s. Snapped on the streets of New Westminster,
a city just southeast of Vancouver, the images reveal rows of
1940s-era automobiles, as well as actors Jesse L. Martin, Victor
Garber and John Barrowman in period attire. According to Hollywood
North.Buzz, the scenes were to involve car chases with gangsters,
but no singing.
Link:http://www.cbr.com/the-flash-set-photos-hint-at-musicals-1940s-setting/
- The Flash: First Look at Grodd's Nemesis Solovar! (Date: 16
Feb 2017)
The CW has now released a new batch of photos from "Attack on
Gorilla City," including the first two images of Solovar. As you
can see, Solovar — who is being voiced by Keith David (The Thing,
Community) — is being depicted as a giant, white gorilla. That's a
noticeable departure from his comic book counterpart, who looks
like a regular gorilla but wears a fancy red cape. Created by
writer John Broome and artist Carmine Infantino, Solovar made his
first appearance in The Flash #106 alongside Gorilla Grodd and Pied
Piper.
Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/02/16/the-flash-first-look-at-grodds-nemesis-solovar-/
GREEN ARROW COMICS & TOY NEWS
- First Look At Mattel's WONDER WOMAN Toy Line Includes Diana,
Steve Trevor, Queen Hippolyta And More (Date: 13 Feb 2017)
Ahead of this month's Toy Fair Mattel (via EW) has debuted some
pics of its upcoming Wonder Woman toyline. The Barbie-like action
figures include Diana in various different outfits (and on a
horse), as well as her mother Queen Hippolyta and Steve
Trevor.
Link:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/wonder_woman/first-look-at-mattels-wonder-woman-toy-line-includes-diana-steve-a148903
- DC Rebirth: [SPOILER] Returns in Batman and the Flash's
Watchmen Crossover Mystery (Date: 13 Feb 2017)
A mysterious figure in Superman, a mysterious button in the Flash,
a returning Wally West in Titans, and an imprisoned Legionnaire in
Batman have all contributed clues to the overall mystery, but we’ve
yet to see any answers. That’s all set to change with a crossover
between the Batman and Flash titles, with Tom King, Jason Fabok,
Joshua Williamson, and Howard Porter all set to put the world’s
greatest detectives on a path to find out the significance of that
blood-stained smiley face. The crossover begins April 19 in Batman
#21.
Link:
http://comicbook.com/2017/02/13/dc-rebirth-spoiler-returns-in-batman-and-the-flashs-watchmen-mys/
- DC Comics To Pay 50% Of Comic Store Ads Playing In Their Local
Cinemas (Date: 15 Feb 2017)
DC is working with media buyers National CineMedia (NCM) to help
promote comics shops in their local cinemas. NCM will help stores
tag their details onto a 15 or 30 second DC Universe: Rebirth ad
and place it before appropriate movies playing. Stores can then
submit expenses to DC Comics to get reimbursements of up to half
their costs.
Link:https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/02/15/dc-comics-pay-50-comic-store-ads-playing-local-cinemas/
- Green Arrow #17 (Preview) (Date: 14 Feb 2017)
* Writer Benjamin Percy | Pencils, Inks, Colors Otto Schmidt |
Cover: Juan E. Ferreyra
* Out this week: “EMERALD OUTLAW” finale! The biggest GREEN ARROW
epic since the start of the Rebirth era comes to a shattering
conclusion when Oliver, Emiko and Black Canary unite against the
deadly assassin terrorizing Seattle’s most prominent citizens. But
Malcolm Merlyn won’t go down without a fight—even if it takes all
of Seattle with him.
Link:http://www.cbr.com/green-arrow-17-3/
FEEDBACK
NEXT EPISODE
Promo for Next Week's: Episode - “The Sin-Eater” (Date: 15
Feb 2017)
Article:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/arrow/arrow-season-5-episode-14-promo-the-sin-eater-are-these-the-gotham-a148973
Episode: “The Sin-Eater” [Season 5 Episode 14]
Air Date: Wednesday,
February 22, 2017
Summary: China White, Cupid
and Liza Warner break out of Iron Heights and head to Star City for
revenge. Oliver tries to bring in the newly formed girl gang but
the ACU intervenes mid-fight. To his surprise, they are there to
arrest the Green Arrow for the murder of Detective Malone.
Meanwhile, Lance feels responsible for the prison break after
Warner tells him she heard about him working with Damien
Darhk.
Director: Mary
Lambert
Writers:
Barbara Bloom and Jenny Lynn
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5607504/?ref_=ttep_ep14
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