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“The Magnificent Eight” [Season 1 Episode 11]
April 14th, 2016
We’ve talked Thor before, but in the context of Arrow! He has a
total of 16 directing credits, but this is the only episode of
Legends of Tomorrow he’s directed, but he’s no stranger to
LoT: 1x Director
Other Director Credits: 1x Quantico | 4x Arrow |
1x Supergirl | 1x Flash | Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters | Diary of
a Wimpy Kid and others!
Story by Marc Guggenheim and Greg Berlanti,
Teleplay by Marc Guggenheim
When you’re playing in the DC sandbox, you’re not going to
leave the story to just anyone… two showrunners and the big dogs
for the DC TV and Berlanti-verse
Man who needs no introduction - we’ve talked a lot about him
before One of the key figures along with Kriesberg in the
Executive Producer: Arrow | Legends of Tomorrow |
Vixen | No Ordinary Family | Flash Forward
Tons of writing credits, extending beyond the DC TW genre into
video games, comics, movies and more...
Rating: Episode 11 - 1.98 (April 14th,
- Up a tenth of a point… probably because of Jonah Hex?
- Arrow: April 10th - “Sins of the Father” (Ep
4.13) - 44 (Nyssa disbands the league, Malcolm
loses his hand)
- The Flash: Still on a two-week break -
no episode (Back April 19)
- Supergirl: April 11th - “Myriad” (Ep.1.12) -
12 (Myriad effect has taken over National
Links for Other Shows
Episode Air Date
Pilot, Part 1
Pilot, Part 2
Star City 2046
Night of the Hawk
The Magnificent Eight
River of Time
- What was the overall theme for this episode /
What was the link to the ep. name
- “The Magnificent Eight”
- Take on the classic Magnificent Seven cowboy movie, which
itself was adapted from the 1954 Kurosawa film, the Seven
- 1960: Starring Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen,
Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn
- 1998: CBS TV Series starring Michael Biehn,
Ron Perlman, Dale Midkiff
- 2016: Upcoming movie starring Denzel
Washington, Chris Pratt, Ethan Hawke, Vincent D'Onofrio, Lee
Byung-hun, Manuel Garcia-Rulfo, Peter Sarsgaard
- Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your
- Of course they got into a bar fight! ---- WITH PIANO!
- Time Travel: Share your thoughts
- Time fragments - pockets one can hide in for awhile
- Rip Hunter
- Hides on ship because he knows Jonah
- Admits to almost succumbing to time drift
- Doesn’t have control over crew
- Finally steps up to duel Stillwater
- Rate The Captain on a scale of 1 (Captain Crunch) to 10
- Vandal Savage
- Not in episode.
- Bracelet can kill him
- The Atom - Ray Palmer
- So happy to be in Wild West
- Made sheriff - John Wayne
- Has to be the hero
- White Canary - Sara Lance
- Sara in a cowboy hat…*sigh* *sigh*
- Drinks Mick under the table
- Likes the simplicity of the Old West
- Hawkgirl - Kendra Saunders
- Meets her former self
- Tries to convince herself that she can control her destiny
- Learns about the bracelet that can kill Savage
- Captain Cold - Leonard Snart
- Snart in all black and in a cowboy hat…*sigh*
- Makes a clean kill to protect Stein (by Old West rules)
- Sharpshooter to help Sheriff Ray “John Wayne” Palmer
- Makes reference to MIB flashing device to wipe memories
- Heatwave - Mick Rory
- If you think I’m bad, meet the hunters
- Challenges Sara to drinking game and loses
- Knows about the Pilgrim
- Firestorm - Professor Martin Stein
- Just had to help the damsel in distress and cure her son
- Father was a criminal sort; learned to play cards
- G. Well’s mother looks like Clara from BTTF 3
- Maker of clothes once again
- Gives info of Rip’s time in Calvert, OK
- Jonah Hex!!!
- Knows right away they’re time travelers; asks for Rip
- Doesn’t think his face needs fixing
- Punches Rip when learns Rip knew fate of Calvert
- The Hunters
EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS:
Season 1 Episode 11 “The Magnificent Eight” (Date: 15 Apr
- Magnificent 7 reference: We talked about
the movies and source material earlier
- Salvation, Texas: Salvation, Texas, was
the name of a town featured in a 2006 Jonah Hex story. In that
tale, the town wasn't run by criminals, but by a particularly
controlling sect of nuns.
- Kuberts Barbershop sign: One of the
storefronts in Salvation features a pretty familiar name to DC
Comics fans: Kubert. In this instance, it’s likely a nod to Joe
Kubert, whose work on Jonah Hex comics helped to craft the look of
the character’s early years. Kubert, of course, also worked on a
lot of classic Hawkman stories, meaning that his influence has been
felt quite a bit on Legends.
- Jonah Hex: While Hex's origin is that of a
post-Civil War bounty hunter, he's had some time-travel adventures
himself. In the DC Comics Universe, when he found himself flung to
the far future after the events of Crisis on Infinite
- G. Wells: The child Stein saves in the
episode is actually a young H.G. Wells, whose The Time Machine is
widely regarded as one of the earliest and best novels on the topic
of time-travel. ---- But we all know Warehouse 13 told the TRUE
story of H.G. Well. (Shannon, that’s for you!)
- John Wayne reference: Ray comes up with
another great alias...
- Turnbull: Turnbull, the man who's
responsible for the sacking of Calvert, Oklahoma, is a Jonah Hex
villain from the comics. He was also the villain in the Jonah
Hex movie played by John Malkovich.
- Hannibal Hawkes: Hannibal Hawkes isn't
just the Old West hero Nighthawk, but in modern stories it was
revealed that he was, indeed, one of the many lives of Prince
- Klemmer & Sons sign: One of
Salvation's storefronts is that of "Klemmer and Sons," apparently
the business owned by Phil Klemmer's family. Klemmer is a
writer and producer on Legends of Tomorrow.
- Geddes Drugstore sign: One of the signs in
town is for an apothecary named D. Geddes, a nod to David
Geddes, who directed last week's episode titled "Progeny.
- Stephen Amell teases 4-way crossover with “Boots on the Ground”
(Date: 07 Aug 2016)
* Stephen Amell tweeted a pic of a bunch of boots - can you figure
out who is who?
- CW Releases Season Synopses for DC-TV Shows (Date: 10
The CW has released the official synopsis for Arrow, Flash, LoT and
- October 5th Flash:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/the-flash-season-3-description-retraces-barrys-path-to-flashpoint
- October 4th
- October 13th Supergirl:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/supergirl-s2-synopsis-hypes-superman-team-up-search-for-cadmus-more
- October 10th
- Dolph Lundgren to guest on Arrow Season 5 (Date: 11
* best known for roles in Rocky IV, Universal Soldier, The
Punisher, He-Man and The Expendables, will play the head of the
Bratva (Russian mob) in the flashback
* IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000185/?ref_=nv_sr_1
GENERAL DC TV NEWS
- The Flash: Susan Walters (Vampire Diaries)
cast as Caitlin’s Mom (Date: 08 Aug 2016)
* Susan Walters moves from one CW show (The Vampire Diaries) to
another (The Flash).
* Dr. Carla Tannhauser is a biomedical engineer, similar to Caitlin
(biochemist & M.D.).
* Snow and her mother share a knack for science, but not much else.
When Earth-2 Killer Frost and Earth-1 Caitlin Snow met, they talked
about her; neither of them got along with her.
- The Flash: Casting News! The Top, Mirror
Master & ??? (Date: 10 Aug 2016)
* Casting for three new characters -- Haley
needs to give listeners the classic Crimson Comet Line -
“You’re the Bottom and I’m The Top”
* Sam Scudder aka Mirror Master
* Rosalin “Rosa” Dillon aka gender swapped The Top
* Female, 18 or older to play 17,could be one of two Flash
villains: Magenta, a former Teen Titan turned Rogue, or Thorn, a
silver age Flash villain
UPDATE: Mirror Master casting announced, Grey
Damon from Friday Night Lights & Star-Crossed
- The Flash: Confirmed!! Flash & Supergirl
Musical Crossover (Date: 11 Aug 2016)
*“The Flash” and “Supergirl” will combine their singing talents for
two musical crossover episodes in the back half of the season,
around episode 13 or 14, the executive producers revealed at The
CW’s Television Critics Association summer press tour
- The Flash: Kevin Smith confirmed to direct
Flash & Supergirl! (Date: 11 Aug 2016)
* The announcement came at a panel at TCA 2016 for The CW
* CW is focusing on diversity in the Directing pool.
* Marc Guggenheim: “50% of the Arrow S.05 directors are "diverse"
(aka: non-white males). Andrew Kreisberg added, they've offered
over 20 women directing jobs on the shows.
- The Flash: 03 Dark Speedster revealed as
Savitar (Date: 11 Aug 2016)
* In the comics Savitar is a Cold War pilot test pilot who is
struck by lightning during a flight
* He has an obsession with speed and is the leader of a cult.
* He's battled speedsters like Johnny Quick and Max Mercury, and
Wally West, trying to steal their speed and transfer it to his
- The Flash: Danielle Panabaker talks Flashpoint
Caitlin (Date: 05 Aug 2016)
So, just how different is this Caitlin from the one we know?
“Totally different,” Panabaker says. “All the relationships are
very different.” --- Debuts October 4th, 2016
- The Flash: Grant Gustin & Keiynan Lonsdale
on DC All Access (Date: 09 Aug 2016)
* Grant Gustin: "In the same sense that he's forgetting a lot of
memories, it means he's forgetting his powers too… It's like he's
having a full 'Back to the Future' moment”
* Grant Gustin: “his memories are starting to get replaced from the
previous timeline with new memories...When he realizes those
memories are replacing other memories, that's when he starts to
realize how selfish of a decision this was”
* Details and discussion on how Wally’s life with Joe is
- Supergirl: Merlin alum Katie McGrath
cast as Lena Luthor (Date: 04 Aug 2016)
* Beautiful, powerful, and enigmatic, Lena arrives in National City
on the heels of brother Lex’s incarceration hoping for a fresh
* Lena has taken over as CEO of her family’s billion-dollar-tech
company, Luthor Corp, which has been tarnished by Lex’s evil
* Her goal is to re-brand the Luthor Corp. empire as a force for
BONUS: Set pics from @YVRshoots shows Lena Luthor
- Supergirl: Miss Martian and Mon-El announce!
(Date: 11 Aug 2016)
* As reported by Deadline, Sharon Leal will appear on the show as
Miss Martian while Chris Wood will play Mon-El.
* Sharon Leal previously appeared as Zuri Ellis in the NBC series
* Chris Wood's character will be who emerges from the pod glimpsed
in the "Supergirl" S1 finale.
* Mon-El is a character with powers similar to that of
Supergirl and hails from the planet Daxam. In the comics, Mon-El
has close ties with the Legion of Super-Heroes
- Supergirl: Deleted scenes and Bloopers from
Season 1 (Date: 07 Aug 2016)
Season one Blu Ray and DVD release this week, and the blooper reel
and deleted scenes are online.
- Supergirl: More details emerge from the SDCC
Supergirl press event (Date: xx July 2016)
* Melissa Benoist: "It feels like we're in an amazing company. It
feels like we're where we should have been all along...the first
three scripts I've read already feel more vibrant, exciting and
* Mehcad Brooks (James Olsen): "It feels younger, it feels more
vibrant. It's not a dig at CBS obviously”
* David Harewood (Martian Manhunter): "I think maybe CBS -- I don't
think it's their natural fit, and I think they were trying to do
less of the alien superhero stuff, whereas on CW they want more of
* Sarah Schechter (Exec. Producer): “when you say 'metahuman' to
someone at the CW, they know what you mean. I think it'll just be a
lot of fun."
- LoT: First Look at the new Vixen on Legends of
Tomorrow (Date: 11 Aug 2016)
* first look at Mari McCabe's forerunner, Amaya Jiwe, the Vixen
from the 1940s.
- LoT: Klemmer & Guggenheim talk Legends of
Tomorrow at SDCC (Date: 05 Aug 2016)
* Details of a round table interview just came out:
* Klemmer: "Because we didn't do a pilot, it was like stepping on a
moving train, and we didn't know where it was headed.”
* Klemmer: “We really took our hiatus this year and took the show
apart, and rebuilt it piece by piece. We're much more deliberate,
just thinking about where is this going to take us,*
* Guggenheim: “In Season 2, we've used the destruction of the
Oculus and the Time Masters as a kicking off point for a brand new
raison d'etre for the show and for the team. Now, they're more like
time cops. They've got to do the job of the Time Masters.”
- LoT: Is Ray Palmer on Lian Yu??
(Date: 08 Aug 2016)
* Brandon Routh tweeted a castaway pic with an EPIC island beard -
Chris are you jealous of his awesome facial hair??
* Says it’s actually not Lian Yu
- LoT: Sarah Grey from the Power Rangers movie
cast as Star Girl (Date: 08 Aug 2016)
Sarah Grey will portray Stargirl in a recurring role in Season
* Stargirl will be rounding out the Justice Society of America
lineup, along with Hourman and Vixen and the still-uncast Dr.
Mid-Nite and Obsidian.
* Stargirl was created by Geoff Johns and debuted in 1999's "Stars
and S.T.R.I.P.E." # 0.
* She wields a cosmic staff that allows her to manipulate energy
- LoT: Marc Guggenheim talks Vixen and the JSA!
(Date: 05 Aug 2016)
* We already know it won't be Mari McCabe - she'll be Amaya Jiwe,
Mari's grandmother from the 1940s and a member of the Justice
Society of America.
* “You've got Captain Cold, who was a criminal and out for himself.
He's replaced by Vixen, who is the definition of a superhero.”
* She's a member of the JSA from the ‘40s, everything is prim and
proper -- not stuck up, but she does things right. You have this
team that doesn't do things right, they're a bunch of fuck-ups. So
she's an interesting counterpoint."
GREEN ARROW COMICS & TOY NEWS
- Funko releases Legends of Tomorrow Funko Pops! (Date:
08 Aug 2016)
* No announcement from Funko, but appeared as “Out of Stock” on the
Hot Topic site
* White Canary (Sara Lance), Ray Palmer A.T.O.M. and Firestorm
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More hints about our shows!
CW superhero show character to come out as gay
A character on The Flash, Arrow, Supergirl, or DC’s Legends of
Tomorrow will be coming out this season. “One of the characters on
one of the shows...
Mackie Barry and Joe's boss is already, Curtis is gay
and Sara is bi-curious, isn't this a non-issue?
Tribune I agree -Michelle
· Commented on by Michelle Ealey ·
Mackie .....good, just making sure, didn't want to
come off like a dick about it, but I wish shows would handle it
like Battlestar did, that it was just there and a part of life and
not make a big deal about it....thats how you gain acceptance
Message · 1 ·
Tribune And news came out that the lead of the new CW
Seed show will be gay. This is good, but I hope one day this isn't
news and we can focus on good characters.
· Commented on by Michelle Ealey ·
Promo for Next Week: Legends Of Tomorrow - “Last Refuge”
Refuge” [Season 1 Episode 12]
Thursday, April 21st,
team is targeted by The Pilgrim, a deadly assassin who wants to
erase them from the timeline by killing their younger selves. As a
protective countermeasure, Rip decides that Sara, Snart, Rory,
Professor Stein and Jax need to kidnap their past selves first
before The Pilgrim gets to them. Coming face-to-face with the
younger versions of themselves proves to be both a physical and
emotional challenge for certain members of the team who would
rather forget their past.
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