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The Starling Tribune: An Unofficial Arrow TV Show Fan Podcast


The Starling Tribune is a podcast dedicated to the CW's Arrow TV Show and the other DC Comics TV Shows on the CW channel as well as the DC Universe in general. Each week the reporters and their chief editor will get together to discuss the latest episode of the hit CW show Arrow. The Starling Tribune is a proud member of the GonnaGeek Podcast Network found at GonnaGeek.com

Jan 13, 2020

The Starling Tribune Reporters SP and Chris review the 2019 Arrowverse Crossover Crisis On Infinite Earths Part Three (technically Flash Season 6 Episode 9). The reporters discuss Diggle and Vibe’s return to the crossover and how their stories were treated, Michelle geeks out over the Lucifer cameo, the highlight of the episode and the crossover with John Wesley Shipp’s sacrifice and nod to his 1990 Flash series, SP give a bit of Black Lightning cameo background, if Jon Cryer’s Lex Luther is now a Paragon, the general plot shortfalls or thorns in the episode, if the cameos were treated well and that they are looking forward to the completion of the crossover next week.

 

Episode:            “Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 3” [Flash: Season 6 Episode 9]

Air Date:           Tuesday, December 10, 2019

 

Director:           David McWhirter

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574765/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

                        7x Flash / 5x Supergirl / 8x Blindspot

 

Writers: Eric Wallace - story by

                        https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0908630/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6

                        7x Flash / 6x Teen Wolf / 5x Eureka

 

Lauren Certo - teleplay

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6359496/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4 

                        11x Flash 

 

Sterling Gates - teleplay

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2264361/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5

                        8x Flash / 1x Supergirl



Promo: https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/12/09/crisis-on-infinite-earths-spoilers-part-3-trailer-watch-online-the-flash/

 

Arrow

 

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Starling City 15-Oct-19 0.84

02 Welcome To Hong Kong 22-Oct-19 0.77

03 Leap Of Faith 29-Oct-19 0.76

04 Present Tense 5-Nov-19 0.62

05 Prochnost 19-Nov-19 0.74

06 Reset 26-Nov-19 0.79

07 Purgatory 3-Dec-19 0.83

 

Legends Of Tomorrow

 

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

 

Supergirl

 

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Event Horizon 6-Oct-19 1.26

02 Stranger Beside Me 13-Oct-19 0.97

03 Blurred Lines 20-Oct-19 0.92

04 In Plain Sight 27-Oct-19 0.95

05 Dangerous Liaisons 3-Nov-19 0.78

06 Confidence Women 10-Nov-19 0.8

07 Tremors 17-Nov-19 0.79

08 The Wrath Of Rama Khan 1-Dec-19 0.87

09 Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part One 8-Dec-19 1.67

 

The Flash

 

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Into the Void 8-Oct-19 1.62

02 A Flash of the Lighting 16-Oct-19 1.27

03 Dead Man Running 22-Oct-19 1.38

04 There Will Be Blood 29-Oct-19 1.48

05 Kiss Kiss Breach Breach 5-Nov-19 1.19

06 License To Elongate 19-Nov-19 1.29

07 The Last Temptation of Barry Allen, Pt. 1 26-Nov-19 1.17

08 The Last Temptation of Barry Allen, Pt. 2 3-Dec-19 1.32

09 Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Three 10-Dec-19 1.71

 

Black Lightning

 

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 The Book Of Occupation: Chapter Two: Birth of the Blackbird 7-Oct-19 1.16

02 The Book Of Occupation: Chapter Two: Maryam’s Tasbih 14-Oct-19 0.63

03 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Three: Agent Odell's Pipe-Dream 21-Oct-19 0.61

04 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Four: Lynn's Ouroboros 28-Oct-19 0.52

05 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Five: Requiem for Tavon 11-Nov-19 0.71

06 The Book of Resistance: Chapter One: Knocking on Heaven's Doo 18-Nov-19 0.62

07 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Two: Henderson's Opus 25-Nov-19 0.65

08 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Three: The Battle of Franklin Terrace 2-Dec-19 0.60

09 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Four: Earth Crisis 9-Dec-19 0.90

 

Batwoman

 

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating

01 Pilot 6-Oct-19 1.86

02 The Rabbit Hole 13-Oct-19 1.45

03 Down Down Down 20-Oct-19 1.22

04 Who Are You? 27-Oct-19 1.29

05 Mine Is A Long And A Sad Tale 3-Nov-19 1.16

06 I'll Be Judge, I'll Be Jury 10-Nov-19 1.09

07 Tell Me The Truth 17-Nov-19 1.01

08 A Mad Tea-Party 1-Dec-19 1.01

09 Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Two 9-Dec-19 1.71

 

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

  • What was the overall theme? What was the link to the episode’s name?
    • Part 3 of crossover
    • Crisis across the multiverse 
  • Fight scenes and stunts
  • N/A
  • Time Travel / Crisis / Cameos
    • Earth-203 New Gotham - Huntress (Birds of Prey TV show)
    • Plan to rescue as many from other Earths and bring them to Earth 1
  • Oliver Queen / Green Arrow - Earth 1
    • Trip to Purgatory; Constantine needs help to get into Purgatory, goes to Earth-666 and gets Lucifer to help (repayment for Maze); picture fades, trapped in Purgatory
    • Constating, Diggle, and Mia go to Purgatory - Lian Yu for Oliver
    • Oliver attacks; Diggle gets him back
    • Jim Corrigan - Constatine knows him too; Corrigan - your destiny is to save everyone, you must become the Spectre
  • Team Arrow
    • Diggle pissed about not being told about Oliver
  • Supergirl - Earth 38
    • Determined to use book to bring back her Earth
  • Team Supergirl
    • J’onn J’onzz - Hero Paragon
  • Superman - 38 (Hoechlin)
  • N/A
  • Superman - 96 (Routh)
    • Couldn’t save people; black - even in the darkest time, hope brings us out
  • Batwoman - Earth 1
    • Gets Lex to talk about the book, giving Lex the opportunity to rip out a page
    • Confronts Kara about using the book; we’re doomed if something happens to you
    • Gives Kara Bruce’s kryptonite thing; Kara tells her to keep it
  • Barry Allen / Flash - Earth 1
    • Go to source of anti-matter wave - in Central City - with Killer Frost and Vibe
    • Nash is Pariah - witness tragedy
    • Earth-90 Flash on treadmill
    • Convinces Black Lightning to help
    • Flashtime conversation w/Flash 90 - time for Flash to vanish in Crisis
    • Go reverse on treadmill
    • Parting moments w/Cisco and Caitlin
    • Earth 90 Barry takes Barry’s speed force; keep riding the lightning, son
    • Bonding moment w/Black Lightning; lessons from fathers 
  • Team Flash
    • Cisco helps Ray w/detector
    • Killer Frost and Elongated Man
    • Paragon of Love
    • Cisco - Vibe again “thanks” to Monitor; gets Flash
    • Iris - Barry’s tells her that her heart will convince Ryan to be a hero; parting moment with Barry
  • Sara Lance / White Canary
  •  
  • Ray / Atom 
  • Ryan Choi
    • Paragon of humanity
    • Recognizes Ray Palmer; working in miniaturization
    • I’m no hero; if the world’s ending, then I need to be home
    • Iris talks him into helping them
  • Team Legends
  •  
  • Monitor
    • Anti-Monitor wants to replace this universe with his own
    • Can only attempt to save what remains
    • Sent Earth-90 Flash away, allowing Anti-Monitor to find him
    • His world and family died; distracted by work
    • Only Earth left
    • You’ll know what to do when the moment arrives, Pariah
  • Harbinger
    • Arrives on Waverider; memory fuzzy
    • Flash and Superman figure out she’s the enemy; is the Anti-Monitor; destroys Earth-1
  •  
  • Anti-Monitor
    • Flash 90 on treadmill; failsafe - cannon destroy all Earths at once.
    • Takes over Harbinger
    • Mobius
    • Takes Novu’s power; destroys Earth-1
  • Lex Luthor
    • Of course he’s going to take a page from the book and make himself a hero 
  • Pariah
    • Controlled by Anti-Monitor; bears witness
    • Cisco vibes his memories
    • Brings Black Lightning, who doesn’t know about multiple Earths and whose Earth is gone
    • Teleports Flash, Sara, Batwoman, Supergirl, Superman, J’onn J’onzz, and Ryan to the Vanishing Point - outside of time and space; Lex comes out of Superman to rewrite destiny
  • Black Lightning
    • Contains energy from canon
    • Not from Earth-1
    • Rage against the dying of the light 
  • Thorns:
    • SP
      • All three episodes sort of feel like a waste now because everything is gone
      • Loved the cameos, but some are obscure for Arrowverse fans
        • Choi
        • Lucifer
        • Spectre
        • Stargate Pioneer
      • Jon Cryer - what a great Lex - plus the Christopher Reeve connection in Superman IV. Yes, I know we’ve discussed it before but I felt it needed to be mentioned again.
      • The way the Flash cast just miraculously portals in
        • Punctuates the separate episodes and not true continuous miniseries event
      • Black Lightning just a bit more than a cameo
      • It would have been nice to see Oracle on Earth 203
      • World’s Finest confrontation ...a bit old with Batman v Superman
      • Why does Vibe live again when Cisco went through the whole arc of becoming non meta again? - I know,because plot and he was the only one to get through the treadmill force field. But….really?
    • Chris
      • Why isn’t Dig the Green Lantern yet?
      • Spectre reveal kinda came out of nowhere
    • Michelle 
      • Still upset that we didn’t see Nash become Pariah or Lyla become Harbinger and why she ended up w/Anti-Monitor and as the Anti-Monitor
      • If Anti-Monitor could destroy all Earths at once, why not do so? (I know, because plot, but still)
      • Oliver didn’t need to become the Spectre; Corrigan would’ve been great to see
    • Roses
      • SP - 
        • All the cameos.
        • John Wesley Shipp’s 90’s flash gets an ending
        • Diggle’s issue about not being with Oliver - true to the characters
        • Routh’s Superman … again.
      • Chris
        • John Wesley Shipp is OG flash again! and we get an actual 90s flash flashback
        • Brandon Routh is still great. Can we give him a Superman show?
        • Diggle and Oliver’s friendship is shown to be a big deal when he’s the one that pulls him out.
        • Lex tricks everyone (keep in mind he sees himself as a hero normally). BUt bummed it's Routh Supes that is gone :(
        • Kara and Kate conversation ends when Kara tells her to keep the kryptonite
  •  
  • Michelle 
    • Lucifer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love Tom Ellis and the show. Maze is Mazikeen, loyal servant/friend of Lucifer’s; Constantine helped bring her out of Hell to Earth; there are rules preventing Lucifer from just bringing whoever he wants out of Hell; even Lucifer has to go back to Hell; visit is pre-TV show
    • Treadmill from comics; a Flash has to die; flashback to Flash TV show (knew this was going to happen, still teared up anyway)
    • Logical reason to bring in Black Lightning
    • Diggle brings back Oliver
    • Still loving Snart as the voice of the Waverider
  • For reference: Crisis on Infinite Earths: Easter Eggs and References in Part Three (10 Dec 2019) https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/12/11/crisis-on-infinite-earths-part-3-easter-eggs/

 

 

ARROW NEWS:

 

  1. CW Reveals When Arrow, Flash, Batwoman and More Return From Winter Hiatus (Date: 18 Dec 2019)
    1. Both Arrow and DC's Legends of Tomorrow will air on Jan. 14 to close out the Arrowverse's "Crisis on Infinite Earths".
    2. Official premiere dates: 
    3. Batwoman: Jan. 19, 8 p.m.
    4. Supergirl: Jan. 19, 9 p.m
    5. Black Lightning: Jan. 20, 9 p.m.
    6. Arrow: Jan. 21, 8 p.m.
    7. DC's Legends of Tomorrow: Jan. 21, 9 p.m.
    8. The Flash: Feb. 4, 8 p.m.
    9. https://www.cbr.com/cw-arrowverse-riverdale-black-lightning-midseason-premiere-dates/

 

CW ARROWVERSE NEWS:

 

  1. The CW Renews 13 Series Including ‘Batwoman’, ‘Nancy Drew’, ‘The Flash’, ‘Riverdale’ & ‘All American’ (Date: 7 Jan 2020)
    1. The CW has ordered second seasons of Batwoman and Nancy Drew, along with renewing All American (Season 3), Black Lightning (Season 4), Charmed (Season 3), DC’S Legends of Tomorrow (Season 6), Dynasty (Season 4), The Flash (Season 7), In the Dark (Season 3), Legacies (Season 3), Riverdale (Season 5), Roswell, New Mexico (Season 3), and Supergirl (Season 6).
    2. https://deadline.com/2020/01/the-cw-renews-13-series-batwoman-nancy-drew-the-flash-riverdale-all-american-1202823557/

NEXT EPISODE

 

Link to Promo: https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/12/09/crisis-on-infinite-earths-spoilers-part-3-trailer-watch-online-the-flash/ (Date: 10 Dec 2019) 

 

Episode: “Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 4” [Arrow: Season 8 Episode 8] and “Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 5” [Legends of Tomorrow: Season 5 Episode 0]

Air Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020

Summary: After their defeat in Crisis Part 3 at the hands of the Anti-Monitor, the 7 paragons must fight to bring back the multiverse. Worlds lived, worlds died. Nothing will ever be the same.

Part 4 Director: Glen Winter

Part 4 Writers: Marc Guggenheim

Part 5 Director: Gregory Smith

Part 5 Writers: Keto Shimizu & Ubah Mohamed

 

IMDB link: Part 4:  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9641260/?ref_=ttep_ep8

Part 5: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9724506/?ref_=ttep_ep_cur

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This podcast was recorded on Thursday January 9th, 2020.

 

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